The Final Cut
5.12d YDS 7c French 28 Ewbanks IX UIAA 28 ZA E6 6b British
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Routes in Nautilus
A Little on the Ugly Side T,S 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a | |
Air Voyager With Report S 5.12 7b+ 27 VIII+ 26 E6 6b | |
Automotive Supply House T 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c | |
Baalbek T 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a | |
Baldwin's Chimney T 5.4 4a 12 IV 10 VD 3c | |
Banana Hammock 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c V2 5+ | |
Bat Guano Crack (mistakenly aka B-G Crack) T 5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c | |
Bat Heaven T,TR 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b | |
Blood Sport TR 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a V5 6C | |
Bombay T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c PG13 | |
Bombs Away aka B52 T 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c | |
Bug Squad T 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a R | |
Campsite Host Boulder V2-3 5+ | |
Candlestick T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b | |
Cannonball T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a | |
Captain Nemo T 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b | |
Central Scrutinizer, The T 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c | |
Cool Hand Luke T 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b | |
Cornelius T 5.5 4b 13 IV+ 11 MS 4a | |
Crankenstein T 5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a | |
Cupcake T 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b V1 5 | |
Deception T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c | |
Deep Throat T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a | |
Deterioration V1+ 5 | |
Drunken Redneck Rappellers S 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c | |
Dual T 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c | |
Easy Jam T 5.4 4a 12 IV 10 VD 3c | |
Ejector-Rejector TR 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a | |
Elevator T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a | |
Escalator T 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b | |
Etude For The Left Hand TR 5.5 4b 13 IV+ 11 MS 4a | |
Etude For The Right Hand S 5.5 4b 13 IV+ 11 MS 4a | |
Failure to Communicate T 5.10- 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a | |
Father 1 T 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c | |
Final Cut, The T,S 5.12d 7c 28 IX 28 E6 6b | |
Finally T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a | |
Flare Thee Well T 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c | |
Flying Buttress T 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b | |
Folded, Spindled, and Mutilated T,TR 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a | |
Fourth of July Roof T 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b | |
Friday the 13th T 5.10a/b 6a+ 19 VI+ 19 E2 5b | |
Friday the 13th, Part 2 T 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c | |
Ghost Dance T 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c | |
Grand Traverse, The T 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b | |
Gravity's Rainbow T 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a R | |
H & H Grunt T 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b PG13 | |
Hairlip T 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a | |
Hamburger Crack T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b | |
Handjacker T 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b | |
Harder Than Your Husband T 5.12 7b+ 27 VIII+ 26 E6 6b | |
Hemoglobin T,TR 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c | |
Hesitation Blues T 5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c | |
Horticulture T 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b | |
Humper T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c | |
Hurley-Fowler T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a | |
I'm Spartacus T 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c | |
In The Dark T V5 6C | |
In the Groove T 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b | |
Jim Jam T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a | |
Jim Jam Junior T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b | |
Joke T 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b | |
Kiai T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c PG13 | |
Knee Grinder T,TR 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c | |
Knothole T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c | |
Left Torpedo Tube T 5.10+ 6b+ 21 VII+ 20 E3 5b | |
Lower Progressive T 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a | |
Lower Slot Left T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b | |
Lower Slot and Upper Slot T 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b | |
Lucky You T V6 7A | |
Max Factor T 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a | |
MaxiLash T 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c | |
Middle Parallel Space T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a | |
Mother 1 T 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b | |
Murphy's Law V4-5 6B+ | |
Nemo's Nemesis S 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a | |
Nemo's Toad T,TR 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a | |
New Mutant T 5.12c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b | |
Nitrogen Narcosis T 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c | |
Octagon T 5.12c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b | |
October Light T 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c | |
Old Eyeful T 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b | |
Outrider S 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a PG13 | |
Par Four T,TR 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c | |
Petite Tarsalation T,TR 5.3 3+ 10 III 9 VD 3a | |
Piton Perch T 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b | |
Popcorn Farce T 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a | |
Postman, The T,S 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b | |
Pretty S 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c | |
Republic, The V10 7C+ | |
Right Parallel Space T 5.5 4b 13 IV+ 11 MS 4a | |
Right Torpedo Tube T 5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a | |
Right Winger T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b V0 4 | |
Shotgun Willy V5 6C | |
Sitdown Seam V3 6A | |
Slab Stealer T V4 6B | |
Slat T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b | |
Slick and Superficial T,S 5.12c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b | |
Slit T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b | |
Slut T,TR 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b | |
Soak'em In Cider V5 6C | |
Stand and Deliver S 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a | |
Step Ladder T 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b | |
Stinkzig T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b | |
Straight 4 Ward T,TR 5.5 4b 13 IV+ 11 MS 4a | |
Stranded at Sea T 5.12 7b+ 27 VIII+ 26 E6 6b R | |
Sun Up To Sundown V6-7 7A+ | |
TTL T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c | |
TTR T,TR 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b | |
Tarsalation T,TR 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b | |
Ted's Trot T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b | |
Tempest V9 7C | |
Thin Lizzy T 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b | |
Thunderbolt T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a | |
Twinkle Toes V2 5+ | |
Unknown Crystal Slab V1 5 | |
Unknown Mantle V2 5+ | |
Upper Progressive T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a | |
Upper Slot Left T 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b | |
Vault T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a | |
Vedajuicer, The T V11 8A | |
Vulture Direct T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a | |
W.C. Fields T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b | |
Wall-To-Wall T 5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c | |
War Zone T,S 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c | |
Where the Sidewalk Ends 5.10- 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a V0-1 4+ | |
Whipping Boy T 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a | |
Willem Dafoe's Blood Penis TR 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c | |
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Type: | Trad, Sport, 60 ft |
FA: | Josh Helke, 2004 |
Page Views: | 3,643 total · 29/month |
Shared By: | helk0003 on Aug 12, 2008 |
Admins: | Mike Snyder, Jake Dickerson, Taylor Spiegelberg, Leo Paik, John McNamee, Frances Fierst, Aeon Aki |
Access Issue: Dirt roads reopened as of June 2014
Details
Per Henry Lester: all the dirt roads into the climbing and camping areas are closed to motorized vehicles until July 2015 because of resource degradation.
Per Henry Lester: all the roads have been reopened as of June 2014.
Per Henry Lester: all the roads have been reopened as of June 2014.
Description
This is the finely positioned arete to the left of Slick and Superficial. It is climbable on all but the coldest Wyoming days.
It was an old Bob Scarpelli-Tim Tuola top rope project from the '90s. Bob urged me to lead this and gave permission for the bolts to be added. The first ascent climbed with natural gear placements in the crack, bolts were added later after a few locals at the time agreed it would be nice to have a nice hardish sport line for the upcoming young strong pad people to get hooked on tying in at Vedauwoo as well.
Climb it how you like, gear, bolts or gear and bolts more style points and an extra cheers if you place the gear, congrats either way on sending this classic line.
It was an old Bob Scarpelli-Tim Tuola top rope project from the '90s. Bob urged me to lead this and gave permission for the bolts to be added. The first ascent climbed with natural gear placements in the crack, bolts were added later after a few locals at the time agreed it would be nice to have a nice hardish sport line for the upcoming young strong pad people to get hooked on tying in at Vedauwoo as well.
Climb it how you like, gear, bolts or gear and bolts more style points and an extra cheers if you place the gear, congrats either way on sending this classic line.
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WY
Sounds to me like Josh got the FA, on gear, and then decided to bolt it. If Decaria had actually done the FA, then it would have been his prerogative to bolt it or not; however, he never did anything more than toprope it until after it had been established, then bitched about it being bolted in Climbing magazine.
And why are you calling Helke a glory hog? Please refer me to the issue where Climbing magazine lauds him establishing multiple new routes and problems in Vedauwoo - it doesn't exist. However, when Segal and Decaria repeat existing routes (The Final Cut), or even just attempt a FA ("Steady as She Goes") without an ascent they get a ten page spread.
Without bolts, The Final Cut was an R/X rated route that would never be repeated. With bolts, it makes a good line available to more than just the self-centered elite. Jun 8, 2010
Also EldoFiend, the article Decaria and Segal wrote that featured that route claimed that Eric actually redpointed this route. Do you have reliable information that supports your statement that he only TR'd it? If not, please refrain from posting erroneous BS, even if it is about a climber you do not like or respect.
Molony, I totally agree with you that Tugging Softly and Analog are not mediocre.
As for magazine articles, I seem to racall a particular article about Vedauwoo bouldering, written by Josh Helke, featuring almost exclusively Helke problems/photos of Helke. Not hating on him for it, but just curious why you (EldoFiend) would grill one person for doing that and not the other. Shouldn't you hold them both to the same standard? WAKE UP! Jun 9, 2010
WY
I never claimed that Decaria didn't red point the route, I only said that he had just tr'd it when Josh established the line.
As for the magazine articles you are mostly right; however, Helke's article was in Urban Climber, not Climbing, correct? And Josh did a LOT more route development at Vedauwoo than Segal & Decaria.
BTW, how are you doing, Justin? I haven't seen you in months. Jun 9, 2010
Really? Specifically, you wrote: "If Decaria had actually done the FA, then it would have been his prerogative to bolt it or not; however, he never did anything more than toprope it until after it had been established, then bitched about it being bolted in Climbing magazine."
So what is your statement? That he TR'd it with Josh, that he TR'd it before Josh established the line and then went back for the RP and subsequently bitched about it, or that he only TR'd the line after Josh had established it as a bolted route? Your wording leaves a little ambiguity. That, and the statement that Helke did it entirely on preplaced gear, is the only reason I said anything. Also, magazine articles are magazine articles. By your line of reasoning, Bob's article in Alpinist clearly calls out Helke's article in Urban Climber.
It would be great to never see another conversation like this in the Vedauwoo section of this site. I would love to discuss things like headpointing vs. bolting, but instead while sharing a rope or a beer, and hopefully with smiles and laughs.
I'm doing well, Pablo, thanks for asking. Hope all is well with you as well. Jun 10, 2010
Agreed. Jun 10, 2010