Type: Trad, 3 pitches
FA: Todd Swain, Andy Schenkel, and Randy Schenkel, 1985
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Shared By: Dana Bartlett on Oct 14, 2009
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1. Climb the face of the pillar to a ledge at its top. It's quicker, easier, and no less (much more! - ed.) pleasant to solo up the right-facing corner on the right side of the pillar. 5.5 or 4th class, respectively, 40 feet.

2. From the right side of the ledge, go up and a bit right to several small, left-facing corners; these are 25 feet or so off the ledge. From the last of these, move over a bulge (crux) then go straight up to the GT ledge. The latest guidebook mentions mentions passing a piton; the only pin on this pitch is within arm's reach while you are standing on the ledge. 5.9, 60 feet.

3. Scramble up and left. Then move straight up the face past a small pod, pass to the left of a large flake and on to the top. 5.6, 100 feet.

Notes on P3 from K Swissto:
  • Deep Lichen (left) and Steep Hikin (right) parallel each other.
  • Deep Lichen is completely clean and there is a strip of clean, white rock. Definitely PG/PG13 depending on your comfort level. Becomes more PG if you carry tricams.
  • Steep Hikin is COVERED in deep lichen and you can't see it/find it anymore.


At the left end of the Arrow wall area, just before the trail goes up and then back down to Thin Slabs / Thin Slabs Direct. Look for a dirty, broken, right-facing corner that is approximately 40 feet high.

Rappel from bolts at the clifftop over Three Doves.


Small cams


chewtoynj   NJ
Climbed this 2 weeks ago. The first pitch is all lichen. But the 2nd pitch is fun with a short, yet challenging little crux. There is a pin out there, but it is nearly impossible to see with all of the lichen. Apr 23, 2010
Jersey City, NJ
BrianRH   Jersey City, NJ
The top pitch is really very nice and unusual for the area, but I thought it was harder than 5.6. A nice alternate if there are lines on the second pitches nearby. Maybe a decade of Gunks' roofs has ruined my slab climbing, but I found it quite stimulating as a lead with just enough gear to keep it from feeling "r". Oct 8, 2013
K Swissto
Denver, CO
  5.9 PG13
K Swissto   Denver, CO
  5.9 PG13
Do Red Pillar (to the right) if you're not comfortable on Deep Lichen's run-out 5.8 climbing. Oct 13, 2014
New Paltz
Optimistic   New Paltz
Bit of an epic on this one for me!
- First pitch I found to be fairly easy but quite run out, and the climbing very much not worth the risk. I'll use the Red Pillar start next time.
- Williams gives p2 5.9G, but I wasn't able to get gear within about 10 feet of the crux move and so decided to back off after trying to climb through 6 or 7 times. The fall looked pretty safe, but longer than I liked. Have to come back for a rematch on that one!
- Wish I'd seen kswissto's comments on the 3rd pitch! We talked ourselves into believing we were on Steep Hikin', but indeed that p3 is buried very deeply in lichen, and the finish is on Deep Lichen. The crux of that pitch is reasonably well-protected, but there is a roughly 30-foot runout on 5.5ish terrain, tricams or not. Cool pitch though. Oct 29, 2014
Dana Bartlett
Dana Bartlett   CO
Regarding the previous comment:

Did you have small cams? I can't imagine you didn't. I have done this route 3-4 times and I always get a decent Metolius blue that is at knee level as the crux is pulled. Oct 31, 2014
New Paltz
Optimistic   New Paltz
Ha, yes Dana, you know I do carry a passel of small cams! But I must not have tried hard enough in the right spot...that crack seemed too shallow. I'll go back and have another go at it, some good gear there would have completely changed the game. Thanks, David. Nov 1, 2014
Caz Drach
C'Wood, UT
Caz Drach   C'Wood, UT
5-10-15...There is some lichen but it seems to be cleaner than what others are describing. The pin is solid to use without worry. Protects well at the crux. Great boulder move to finish with an exhilarating exit. Definitely should be climbed more. I did the Red Pillar start to Steep Hikin to Deep Lichen. May 11, 2015