Type: Trad, 85 ft
FA: Robyn Erbesfield, Rob Robinson - 1985
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Shared By: saxfiend on Nov 18, 2006
Admins: saxfiend, Brad "Stonyman" Killough

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Another fine T-Wall crack climb. Use hand jams and foot smears to move up a crack in a left-facing corner. NOTE: This route often takes a while to dry out after a rain.


Starts about 15' left of Margin of Profit.


Medium to large cams and hexes. Bolted anchors.


Birmingham, AL
BirminghamBen   Birmingham, AL
This was my first trad lead...good stances for gear. Thanks to Michael Maniscalco for showing me the ropes. Mar 12, 2007
Portola, CA
Brandon.Phillips   Portola, CA
This route had some awkward moves on it-- thanks a lot trees. Plenty of good rests to figure out the best sequence. Last 10-12 ft. had lots of cracks, but all the rock sounded very hollow. I ran it out over a #3, which added a little spice. I would recommend Jaywalker as a better first lead at T-wall. Oct 7, 2013
Brian Hahn
Arvada CO
Brian Hahn   Arvada CO
This is a great first lead for anyone new to T wall. The route is rated well true 5.7 for T wall. It protects well the top like mentioned above leads to some thought on gear placment however the climbing is straight forward and easy enough to work through it. Fun climb for new leaders I enjoyed it a lot! Jul 1, 2015
David Kerkeslager
New Paltz, NY
David Kerkeslager   New Paltz, NY
This was well-protected compared to the Gunks routes I'm used to, but of the corner cracks I did at T-wall, this was the least well-protected: Nappy and Jaywalker are both easier to protect. It's very G if you do it right, but the protection in the "offwidth" section isn't as immediately obvious, and if you don't protect there, a ledge fall is very possible.

If you're completely new to trad doing this, remember it's G and if you don't feel like you're adequately protected, keep looking for protection, it's there, just not 100% obvious. Jan 16, 2018