Type: Trad
FA: Skip Guerin/Bob Horan, 1981
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Shared By: Alex Shainman on Oct 27, 2001
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Another not so hidden gem on the West Ridge. It looks like a crack, but does not climb like a crack. First off, the pro is good over the roof, but pumpy to place. Once through the sketchy corner and over the roof, you end up doing these pinch moves, layaways, I dyno'ed to get through the crux and into the flare. Short but sweet...Eldo crack climbing at its best.

[The gear is adequate but very pumpy to place (and hard to see at the crux) with a long fall potential at the crux move]

Once on the upper slab, its gets really dicey getting over to the anchor above Parallels...A 2-bolt anchor would be perfect for this route and Crazy Fingers just to the right.


sm/med nuts, .4"-1.25" cams for the main route, .5"+2" cams to get to the anchor *This route and the route to its right (Crazy Fingers) are in DIRE need of a 2-bolt anchor to share*


An excellent route, considerably harder than Parallels (if Parallels is c/d or just right if b), good gear where you need it. Also good call on [separate] anchor... Nov 3, 2003
M. Morley
Sacramento, CA
M. Morley   Sacramento, CA  
Ditto AC that this is significantly harder than Parallels. Nov 9, 2003
While I usually find Eldo grades to be pretty standard (or even soft at times), Foxtrot felt like a sandbag to me. This route felt much more strenous and technical than any 11+ I have done on gear. This felt as hard as some of the 12a or 12b bolted routes I have done in Eldo, except you have to place gear from funky stances. Oct 4, 2004
Joe Collins
  5.11+ PG13
Joe Collins  
  5.11+ PG13
I think this is probably my favorite pitch on the West Ridge. The gear is tricky and strenuous to place, so it would be a very difficult onsight lead... but the gear is good throughout. I agree with the comments about the route's difficulty. I would think of the guidebook grade of 11d as more of an 11+ rating, if you know what I mean.

Mar 8, 2005
Joseph Crotty
Broomfield, CO
  5.11d PG13
Joseph Crotty   Broomfield, CO
  5.11d PG13
Short and sweet. I highly commend anyone that can onsight as some of the gear and moves are tricky. If not comfortable at the grade, be cautious just after the start above the ledge which has sparse pro. Sep 21, 2007
Rob Kepley
Rob Kepley   Westminster,CO
Mega classic, Mega good! I feel this route doesn't deserve an R. It has plenty of great gear throughout. Just be careful with your feet coming off the ledge at the start. I've never been a big fan of the "PG13" tacked on behind a grade. I feel R and X are plenty.

The gear just before the crux is solid and really easy to place. One of the best Eldo has to offer. 5 STARS!!! Oct 1, 2007
Steven Lucarelli
Moab, UT
  5.11d PG13
Steven Lucarelli   Moab, UT
  5.11d PG13
An anchor would be nice but at some point you need to draw the line between convenience and necessity. If you're able to climb this route, then the traverse to the anchor shouldn't really be that big of an issue. And there is adequate gear to protect the initial moves into the traverse so that kind of cancels out any argument for the anchor as a safety measure IMO.

I've used the existing anchor to set up topropes on "Foxtrot" and "Crazy Fingers" with directionals in place and never had any issues. I've also cleaned both of these routes after leading them with a little help from my belayer, and it wasn't too difficult. I can fully understand the argument for an additional anchor, but convenience just isn't a good enough reason, especially in Eldo. Feb 2, 2009
bhoran Horan
Boulder, CO
bhoran Horan   Boulder, CO
I did the first lead of Foxtrot with Skip and I named it after the musical group Genesis's album, "Foxtrot". A lead that took small wires and RPs to lead. This was before the days of the smaller, "Alien" cams. Oct 12, 2009
Boulder, CO
claytown   Boulder, CO
"I did the first lead of Foxtrot with Skip and I named it after the musical group Genesis's album, "Foxtrot". A lead that took small wires and RPs to lead. This was before the days of the smaller, "Alien" cams. [Bob Horan]"

Bob, you are the man! Feb 13, 2010
Ben Dueweke
Lander, WY
Ben Dueweke   Lander, WY
I cleaned an old cam and nut off of this route a couple days ago, PM me if they are yours, and I'll get 'em back to you. Aug 26, 2015