Type: Trad, 300 ft, 4 pitches
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Shared By: John Peterson on Jul 29, 2007
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This excellent climb ascends the corner just left of Conn's West. It starts in the center of the wall and eventually traverses left into the top of the corner.

P1: climb up the center of this face with no particular line. Aim for base of an obvious chimney. 80', 5.5.

P2: Climb the suprisingly enjoyable chimney. Where it pinches off, step left and continue up the same crack system to a belay alcove. 80', 5.6.

P3: This is the business. I suppose this is a Seneca 5.6 but it had me a lot more gripped than many harder routes. Traverse left on the steep face to the big corner and climb up to a belay above the difficulties. There's plenty of pro but hanging out on the steep face to put it in was definitely exciting. The hardest part for me was finding the easiest line - there's chalk all over the place. I wound up going straight left from the fixed pin above the belay to the corner, ignoring the temptation to climb up prematurely. 50', Seneca 5.6.

P4: up to an obvious weakness, left along the ledge and then up through a tree to the top. 100', 5.4.


Start at the center of the face just left of Conn's West.


Standard Seneca rack


Mark Cushman
Cumming, GA
Mark Cushman   Cumming, GA
On P3 you can escape right around the corner to end up on the ledge with the rappel tree and the end of Westpole. I've done the escape a few times to avoid climbing the gully to the summit. Oct 22, 2007
joe schmo
joe schmo  
From the belay ledge at the top of P2, you can make it to the gully between the summit and the big flake of the west face in one pitch. I tried this because following the route to the left and into the gully seemed awkward. The rock quality just continues to get worse the higher you go if you go straight up however and, because of this, I would not recommend this. Next time I'll probably try the established escape variation to the climber's right. Aug 27, 2011
The second pitch is fantastic and very fun. Be aware that if you choose to do the escape, the final belay ledge is too far around the corner from the belay at the top of pitch 2 to communicate by voice. Jun 10, 2013
Jeff Klassen
Denver, CO
Jeff Klassen   Denver, CO
The chimney variation was a blast for P2. Would recommend. Oct 7, 2013
Andrew G
San Diego, CA
Andrew G   San Diego, CA
Full value 5.6, for sure. Great variety on this climb. I ran the 3rd pitch to the gully just below the summit for a ~120' pitch and that worked out fine for me. Rope drag was a little bit of an issue, but not too bad. As Mike mentions, the rock quality takes a decided turn toward chossy for the last 20' or so before the summit gully, but the climbing also dials backs to 5.easy and you can work left to better rock. Aug 11, 2014
Matt Rhodin
Denver, CO
Matt Rhodin   Denver, CO
starting from the bottom of the chimney you can probably make it to the westpole anchor in one pitch with a 70m rope by taking the escape at the top of pitch 3. When I did the route, I didn't know where I was going so I built an anchor on the sloping ledge at the beginning of the escape (little did I know I was about 30 feet from the top). It would be close, but my follower seemed pretty sure it would go. Mar 15, 2015
Fan Zhang
Silver Spring, MD
Fan Zhang   Silver Spring, MD
As of 8/14/15, there was a completely loose piece of rock about 2'x2'x8" on P3, after coming out of the main corner, 15" before the pine tree with a green bird house on it. There were climbers at the base of Thais, so I did not pull it off the wall. Aug 17, 2015
Burlington, VT
craigerv   Burlington, VT
The Horst guidebook says to belay on the sloping ledge on the outside of the corner at the top of pitch 3. I believe this is where you can escape to the top of Westpole. For pitch 4 it says to climb back to the inside corner but I did find climbing back around the corner to be a real challenge. Felt like a 5.9 sort of layback while doing the splits to get back into the corner from the sloping ledge. I'd recommend staying in the corner and belaying from a ledge a little higher up than the escape. May 2, 2016
2 60 meter ropes get you to the ground with 2 rappels (1 short, second long) Jul 17, 2017
Cobra Wrestlr
Mary land
Cobra Wrestlr   Mary land
I think i stayed too far right but im not fully sure... i knew that i wanted to be all the way over left in the corner at some point and was gripped trying to get there. I ended up having to downclimb just like 5 feet from the escape and do a hard traverse to get into the corner. ....Idk what i was on but it felt harder then even seneca 5.6 and i feel as if the thais direct start would be a totally differnt climb all together for the first 200 ish ??? Feet..? I found that the p4 gully to the summit still offered good climbing at a 5.5 grade and some loose rock Jul 2, 2018
Chris Oleson
Santiago, Chile
Chris Oleson   Santiago, Chile
I believe we climbed a variation of P3 that went directly upwards from the P3 belay station (alcove above and left of chimney). It was harder than 5.6. There were one or two steep and exposed moves that followed a thin crack with a couple old pins hammered in. Was a little spicey, esp if you decide not to clip the old pins Oct 4, 2018