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Dihedral is also posted on this site as Cornered. Climb Your Basic Lieback and set up a belay. There is a rap station to your left, but it is easier to stay near the recess where Dihedral, Wired, and Forbidden Planet begin (see Rossiter's sketch on page 136 of his new guide).

Climb through a short rotten section, then head into the obvious dihedral and cut left and climb around the left side of a positive flake. Going straight up the steep finger crack is solid 5.9 (see the description for Cornered). Once on top of the ramp, move up and right to the anchor on top of Forbidden Planet.

Rap down and slightly left on a rotten band to another rap station. One more rap with a 60 meter rope gets you to the ground (just barely).

Rossiter lists this climb as a 5.9-, but his sketch shows the flake variation as 5.7. I led it and I believe the 5.7 rating shown in the sketch. Linked with Your Basic Lieback, this makes for high quality moderate climb, as well as a great warm up for Star Wars.


A standard Eldo rack. Cams in the finger to hand sizes.


Interesting that this climb was put in the database as a 5.7. If you look it up in the Rossiter book he has the left variation (this description) going left of the flake at 5.9-. If you look at the topo it is shown as 5.7.

This is a common issue in the Rossiter guide, the descriptions are rated higher than the topos. But which one is right then?

I lead it a couple of weeks ago and it is not 5.7. It felt 5.9ish to me. Grant it the tough part is not long but still... Maybe a really hard 5.8? Certainly harder then Reggea...

The "straight up" variation is 5.9 and requires, at least the way I did it, some pretty wide stemming to be able to free at least one hand.

All in all fun pitch either way.

Cheers, WT Jun 14, 2003
M. Morley
Sacramento, CA
M. Morley   Sacramento, CA  
Not even close to 5.9. Jun 14, 2003
George Bell
Boulder, CO
George Bell   Boulder, CO
I led this recently and I don't think it is 5.7. The crux is the last 5 feet, you can put in a #2-#3 Camalot from the undercling and then go for it. Don't try to place anything after this or it will feel like 5.9 for sure (it's a short fall anyway). Fun pitch, no matter exactly what it's rated. Jun 16, 2003
Kevin Currigan
Kevin Currigan   Lakewood
Did this route today and found that the bolts up and right of the top of the route will give you a one rope rap with a 60m rope to the ledge at the base of Your Basic Lieback. Our rope was about two feet off the deck. Sep 17, 2003
Scott Edlin
boulder, co
Scott Edlin   boulder, co
The flake offers very secure hand jams with a bumpy face below for delicate footwork, followed by a move or two of strong but secure liebacking. The whole pitch protects very well except for maybe the last move or two. It's a seven (maybe a hard seven).

GEAR BETA: the dihedral prior to the flake eats up small to midsize nuts and has good stances. The scary looking triangular block in the right wall seems very secure. A yellow Alien goes in the corner just below the flake, and you can get a #2 Camalot followed by a #3 Camalot in under the flake. May 7, 2006
Grand Junction
Merlin   Grand Junction
I'm just breaking into 5.7+/5.8 routes this summer and after a ton of climbing in this range over the last couple months I would say this is harder than other sevens I've been on. It felt harder than Reggae and easier than the crux on Long John Wall so I think a 5.8 might be in line.

The route protects superbly though and you can plug a couple #2 or #3 C4s at the start of the flake then go for it. The hands are bomber and once you start moving the crux is over before you know it.

A 60 Meter will just get you back down to the ledge between Your Basic Lieback and Star Wars if you follow the line down through the trees. Make sure to knot your ropes though. Apr 20, 2007
I give it a 7. If you keep moving through the crux and stay focused, it's a cakewalk. Hang around and place gear on it, you just sandbagged yourself. I'll give that 9 variation an 8+ at best, there are obscure but good feet all the way up it. All in all, it's a great intro to 5.7 Eldo climbing. Oct 22, 2007
Mark Cushman
Cumming, GA
Mark Cushman   Cumming, GA
I really liked this route. Two #2 Camalots protected the crux nicely, the rest of the route ate nuts. If you set up a belay at the crack with the rope and sit back on the ridge you can get some great pics of your partner (see photo). Look up about 20 feet for the glue-ins on top of Forbidden Planet (marked) and you can rap to the West a full 60M with rope stretch. We had a shortish 60M rope and had to downclimb 5 feet on very easy ground. Every ledge we were on was full of death blocks, wear a helmet! Oct 26, 2007
Chris Zeller
Boulder, CO
Chris Zeller   Boulder, CO
This really should be considered the second pitch of Basic Lieback. Done from the ground this route is a 3-pitch classic.

I think its something in between 7 and 9-. My partner placed a cam under the flake and I felt very postive until I had to retrieve it.... May 6, 2008
Rob Hibit
Denver, CO
5.8- PG13
Rob Hibit   Denver, CO
5.8- PG13
Nice Climb! Great Pro on the climb. I think the crux was 5.8- but I placed pro during the moves so it was probably harder than it needed to be. If you move through the crux without placing gear it is probably easier. Jun 8, 2009
Matt Bolt
Matt Bolt   Lakewood
Did this as a second pitch to YBL. Very high quality. Definitely would have felt like 5.9 if you try to place during the crux. Also, there is a little bulge above the anchors at the top that you can continue up and add another 20 feet to the climb (this ends right where Star Wars ends). Aug 6, 2009
Ben Burnett
Ben Burnett   Colorado
True that the crux is short, but it's harder than most Eldo 8s. I challenge you to list 5.7s at Eldo that are harder or on par with this. Sep 14, 2010
Leo Paik
Westminster, Colorado
Leo Paik   Westminster, Colorado  
Ben, FWIW, there are 2 versions to finish this. To the right feels easier, 5.7. To the left is harder and probably 9-, briefly. Sep 15, 2010
Count Chockula
Littleton, CO
Count Chockula   Littleton, CO
Following the angling crux flake left doesn't even come close to .9. If we're looking to split hairs, I'd say .7+. The laybacks are bomber and the feet are all there. Fun pitch. Oct 4, 2010
a Ball
Denver, CO
a Ball   Denver, CO
With 1 70m rope, you can rap from the Forbidden Planet anchor all the way to the base of Your Basic Lieback aka "Star Wars ledge". Jul 30, 2015
Brighton, CO
plantmandan   Brighton, CO
This route is a lot of fun. Combined with the ground start of YBL, it's a great two pitch outing. The topout gives you one of the best views in eldo. A 60m rope will get you to the ground in two raps (2nd rap is a 100' rope stretcher).

FWIW, this route is listed at 5.8 in the 2013 Levin guidebook. I think that's a fair grade. It seemed harder than the crux of Bastille Crack, Rewritten, or Mescaline. The crux is powerful but short. Mar 3, 2018