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Routes in e. The Mac Wall (Something Interesting)

Birdie Party T 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b
Co-op T 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Coexistence T 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b
Credibility Gap T 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b
Dangler, The T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Dry Martini T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Fall to Grace T 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a PG13
Fly Again T 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a PG13
Girly Man T 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a R
Grape Nuts T 5.13a 7c+ 29 IX+ 29 E6 6c
Graveyard Shift T 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b PG13
Higher Stannard T 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c
Impenetrable Ceilings T 5.12b 7b 26 VIII+ 26 E5 6b R
Interstice T 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b
Jane Fonda Workout for Pregnant Women, The TR 5.12b/c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b
Land Ho! T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Land's End (Direct) T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a PG13
Lanman / R-Idealism T 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b A4-5 X
Laughing Man T 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c PG13
MF T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Men At Arms T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a PG13
Mother's Day Party T 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b
Overhanging Layback T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Scene of the Climb T 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c PG13
Something Boring T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a X
Something Interesting T 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Star Action T 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b
Still Crazy After All These Years T 5.10a/b 6a+ 19 VI+ 19 E2 5b
Tequila Mockingbird T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Three Pines T 5.3 3+ 10 III 9 VD 3a
Tough Existence T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Tough Shift T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a PG13
Try Again T 5.10b/c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b
Welcome to the Gunks T 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b PG13
Type: Trad, 65 ft
FA: FA: Jim McCarthy & Hans Kraus - 1955FFA: Rich Goldstone, Jim McCarthy, & Ray Schrag - 1967
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Try Again is just left of Coexistence -- an excellent climb on a totally stacked section of the cliff. It's generally well protected, and could be considered a good warmup for the other climbs here if it weren't so difficult itself.

Follow a right-facing corner system in white rock (usually some sort of fixed pro) to a two-bolt anchor.


Standard Rack.


Very fond of this pitch. First 5.10 lead, mid-October '77. Late afternoon, windy and faint rain. Crux corner works up nicely 5.8, 5.9 a few moves each; good stance for pro. Then two quick hard moves past the roof. Flashed it. Smug satisfaction as my two companions--both considerably better climbers--grunted ponderously through the crux. Feb 19, 2008
I'll note here that a large block fell off this climb, high up and right below the crux. I think this happened a year or two ago. In any case, it's been pointed out to me on two separate occasions and I believe it's true (I'd never been up the route before this happened). Apr 19, 2010
Chris Duca
Havertown, PA
  5.10c PG13
Chris Duca   Havertown, PA
  5.10c PG13
I would also add that a small brassie and a .75 protect the flexing pin at the crux. However, these two peices are well below the pin and would, no doubt, provide for a nice ride if/when the pin fails. Above the pin, the moves are pretty "heads-up", until you get to the crack below the small overlap about 7-8 feet up. To me, this route's crux felt pretty brutal (read: hard) compared to climbs of similar difficulty. Apr 22, 2010
Greg Sudlow
Greg Sudlow   PA
A stout 5.10b. Note, after climbing to the large ledge 15 feet up place a piece in the shoulder high flake before moving up the face on good holds to the crack above. It will be awhile until you get another piece of pro and although the flake piece won’t protect you from crashing into the ledge if you fall, it will keep you from tumbling and hitting the deck below. May 14, 2010
Nick Weinberg
Lyme, NH
Nick Weinberg   Lyme, NH
Crux is strenuous and bouldery, protected by a flexy pin. Also ledge-fall potential lower down with tricky gear, but relatively easy climbing. Overall I was a little dissapointed by this climb......but maybe that's because I don't really love strenuous and bouldery moves above a flexy pin. Call me a wimp. Nov 8, 2011
Stone Ridge, NY
lucander   Stone Ridge, NY
My least favorite of the Mac Wall "tens," very ledgy and broken up. Crux feels a lot harder since the block fell off because the stance below it is not as secure any more. Good luck onsighting the cryptic roof, if not "try again." Feb 8, 2012
Colin Rickert
Ottawa, ON
  5.10b/c PG13
Colin Rickert   Ottawa, ON
  5.10b/c PG13
I fell on the pin today. This route is hard to onsight because some of the holds near the crux are not well chalked and are pretty camouflaged against the orange patina. I pulled right past a nice crimpy rail above the roof that is key to the crux sequence. After the fall I finished up, but as Chris said there are still a few heady moves above the pin. I think the pin is ok for falls but you never know with older pins.

One other thing worth mentioning is that there are some technical moves right above the first ledge. Keep your eyes peeled out left for a small slotted-nut placement. This is the only thing I could find to protect that section, which felt about 5.9 (this is right before going into the right facing dihedral). Mar 18, 2012
Riverdale, NY
cPay   Riverdale, NY
Hold breakage or not, there is still a no hands rest under the roof. 5.10b no more, the hardest part of pulling the roof is establishing both feet above said roof. Figuring out the sequence is part of the enjoyment of the climb, I am glad this is not covered with 'chalked holds'. The move off the first ledge is definitely a bit R, be careful, it is easy compared to the crux, but you could fall on the ledge and break an ankle pretty easily. At the crux, the pin inspires some confidence (i guess) but the gear in the crack below is more than adequate to protect the crux. AWESOME ROUTE! Apr 29, 2014
Andy Casler
Plymouth, NH
  5.10c PG13
Andy Casler   Plymouth, NH
  5.10c PG13
I found this to be a very exciting (kind of scary) climb with good moves.

I think the move off the grassy ledge is 5.9 PG-13 if you're shorter than ~5' 10", but it was manageable for me at 5' 8". The danger would come if you stumbled off the grassy ledge after missing the move. Before making the move off the ledge I found 2 marginal opposing RPs and a .1 x4 about three feet right of the route.

I fell several times on the fixed pin at the crux while projecting this route. Held fine! Jun 29, 2014
Andy Weinmann
Silver Spring, MD
Andy Weinmann   Silver Spring, MD
Dunno what the grey Dick guide is talking about with a blue camalot being helpful on this one near the crux. Directly right of the flexy pin at the crux is a vertical pin scar...a #000 C3 will go (or as I found out, a purple C3 with 2.5 lobes engaged). Luckily I didn't have to test either piece. Nov 1, 2014
Andy, the cam placement at the crux mentioned in Dick's book is no longer there. The placement was behind a block that blew out in 2008.

The pin was pretty recently replaced. It appeared to be new when I first tried this route in the spring of 2014. Nov 12, 2014
Lukasz F
Seattle, WA
Lukasz F   Seattle, WA
Fell on the pin yesterday, it held fine. Aug 17, 2015
Mike Hancock  
I was looking for the 0.3 camelot placement mentioned in the guide book (hadn't read SethG's comment yet) at the crux. I managed to get the 0.3 into the undercling in the back of the roof to back up the pin. Seemed super solid to me. Oct 13, 2015
Andy Casler
Plymouth, NH
  5.10c PG13
Andy Casler   Plymouth, NH
  5.10c PG13
Mike, "Blue Camalot" in Williams guide refers to No. 3, not 0.3. Hope that saves you some trouble on Feast of Fools… Jun 7, 2016
  5.10c PG13
  5.10c PG13
An upside down 00 mastercam is helpful for protecting the moves above the grassy ledge. Aug 18, 2017

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