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Birdie Party T 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b
Co-op T 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Coexistence T 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b
Credibility Gap T 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b
Dangler, The T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Dry Martini T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Fall to Grace T 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a PG13
Fly Again T 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a PG13
Girly Man T 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a R
Grape Nuts T 5.13a 7c+ 29 IX+ 29 E6 6c
Graveyard Shift T 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b PG13
Higher Stannard T 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c
Impenetrable Ceilings T 5.12b 7b 26 VIII+ 26 E5 6b R
Interstice T 5.10c/d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b
Jane Fonda Workout for Pregnant Women, The TR 5.12b/c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b
Land Ho! T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Land's End (Direct) T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a PG13
Lanman / R-Idealism T 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b A4-5 X
Laughing Man T 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c PG13
MF T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Men At Arms T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a PG13
Mother's Day Party T 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b
Overhanging Layback T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Scene of the Climb T 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c PG13
Something Boring T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a X
Something Interesting T 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Star Action T 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b
Still Crazy After All These Years T 5.10a/b 6a+ 19 VI+ 19 E2 5b
Tequila Mockingbird T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Three Pines T 5.3 3+ 10 III 9 VD 3a
Tough Existence T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Tough Shift T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a PG13
Try Again T 5.10b/c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b
Welcome to the Gunks T 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b PG13
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Type: Trad, 60 ft
FA: FA: Jim McCarthy, Phil Jacobus, John Hudson, & Peter Armour - 1962FFA: Rich Goldstone & Jim McCarthy - 1967
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Shared By: Josh Janes on Feb 21, 2006
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Co-Ex is a fantastic single pitch climb on the MF wall. It is considered "the" 5.10 Gunks testpiece... It's rated 10d, but with the correct beta it should feel, oh, about 11a. It's unbelievable to me that the FFA was done in 1967.

Start 20' right of Try Again at a left-facing corner. Climb up to the ledge that's 20 ft. up (a block was broken off here in 2009). Walk 15 ft. right along the ledge, and then follow the broken left-angling crack up and through the overhang (crux), then step left and up to a bolted anchor.


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A fantastic route with fun moves and a somewhat devious crux. It should be noted that although this climb is mostly well-protected, the opening moves past the first piece of gear are not; however, the climbing is relatively easy. Aside from that, the route eats gear. Oct 18, 2008
Be aware that there is 15-20 feet of R/X 5.8 climbing to get to the ledge. Crux is well protected. Aug 6, 2009
Morrison, CO
Monomaniac   Morrison, CO  
I don't believe that's correct Paul. I remember getting good gear below the ledge. I'm thinking it was around a #0 TCU or something like that. Aug 6, 2009
gblauer Blauer
Wayne, PA
gblauer Blauer   Wayne, PA
I seconded this climb, so my comments are based on that perspective.

A fun start to some good face moves lead to a hard crux move. I nearly pumped out trying to make the move over the roof. Aug 8, 2009
A Terray
San Diego, CA
A Terray   San Diego, CA
Agree w/ Paul. First 25 feet is 5.8 R/X. Beyond that gear is G. Pins at crux are easily backed up and fall is clean! Nov 27, 2011
Colin R
Ottawa, ON
Colin R   Ottawa, ON
I followed this today - what a fantastic route. I will come back and lead it someday this year for sure... Mar 18, 2012
Jaysen Henderson
Brooklyn NY
Jaysen Henderson   Brooklyn NY
i lead this today and still dont know the beta.... Aug 12, 2012
Richard Dana
Eugene, OR
Richard Dana   Eugene, OR
Incredible climb. You can get a blue tcu 10 feet up, but then its 15 feet of 5.8 to a ledge so the last bit is R. The rest is beautifully protected though. Oct 10, 2012
I'd add that the 5.8 runout is pretty straightforward and on positive holds Sep 4, 2013
Riverdale, NY
  5.10d PG13
cPay   Riverdale, NY
  5.10d PG13
I'd recommend not clipping the pitons at the crux, its more strenuous to reach out there to the left than to just throw a solid cam right in front of your face (which I would do anyway) so the pitons aren't really doing a whole lot for ya. Apr 29, 2014
City Dweller
New York, NY
City Dweller   New York, NY
Absolute classic! Gear's great. Definitely clip the pins. Oct 15, 2015
Jon Po
Mahwah, NJ
Jon Po   Mahwah, NJ
I would like to add that the 5.8 R/X section is very secure on moderately spaced positive holds. If you're climbing at this grade, the start shouldn't keep you off this awesome climb! Clipping the pins is totally unnecessary. Apr 8, 2016
There is a little overlap at the one technical move in the early going-- I have gotten a variety of pieces in there. Small cams and small nuts. I think it is worth placing this one piece. After this one move the climbing is easier up to the ledge. You will be in groundfall range again before you reach the ledge, but the moves are quite easy. Apr 11, 2016
Sean Sullivan
Boise, ID
Sean Sullivan   Boise, ID
I avoided that 5.8 R/X section by climbing the easier and more protected corner about 15 feet left. I climbed and back-cleaned as I went up, and then walked across the ledge, setting an anchor below the left-leaning crack of CoEx before starting up the route. I later did the 5.8 start on top rope and was happy with my decision to avoid it. Oct 13, 2016
Sean Sullivan (above) has good beta for the start. I did the same start way off to the left but did not back clean. Later the rope worked itself into a crack way off to the left and I had to do a bunch of down climbing to go back and free it. So if you do that start, make sure the rope isn't going to get stuck. Oct 9, 2017

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