The Flying Dutchman
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The Flying Dutchman is a 1,600 foot couloir that climbs from the west end of Chasm Lake to the north edge of the Loft. To approach the climb, hike around the north side of Chasm Lake. When this route is in condition, it offers quality steep snow climbing punctuated by a short, 55 degree water ice crux.
Eds. note the consensus rating is not accurate due to the constraints of mixed rock, ice, and mixed climbing ratings. Sorry!
Most of this route is on steep snow. Pickets can be used and rock protection can be found along the west edge of the couloir. Two ice screws protect the crux ice.
At the base of the couloir, just past Chasm Lake.
Looking down from the middle of the climb.
The crux section of the climb on 6/1/03.
Descending off the Loft in the middle of a June bl...
Jason Deugan climbing TFD.
Jason Deugan topping out the crux ice pitch
BETA PHOTO: Highlighted route for the Flying Dutchman, photo b...
The Flying Dutchman on 9-29-08. Photo by Andy Gra...
Good ice on The Flying Dutchman on 9-29-08. Photo...
Andy Grauch enjoying the first sticks of the seaso...
Crux of FD on Oct. 11th, 2008.
It's not really th...
The conga-line behind us on the Flying Dutchman. Y...
|Comments on The Flying Dutchman
|By George Bell|
From: Boulder, CO
Jun 2, 2003
Climbed this 6/1/03. Fun snow climbing! The crux is mostly melted out and requires a few mixed moves. The rock is rotten here, but there is some good rock pro to be had. From the Loft, we summited Meeker and descended in a raging blizzard!
|By Warren Teissier|
Jun 2, 2003
We climbed the Flying Dutchman on 6/01/03.
The snow conditions were pretty good although a bit soft and melting fast!
Crux conditions: we found a mixture of rock and ice interspersed with a samll water fall.
We climbed the rock/ice section on the left since the pure ice alternative was hollow and seemed ready to come down. All in all, a great route with awesome position.
We got blasted by a weird, winter like snow storm, as we reached the Loft and proceeded to descend in poor visibility via the loft route.
|By Kevin Craig|
Jun 9, 2003
Climbed this route on 6/8. Conditions were very good to great. Good neve' owing to the recent cold spell (thanks for the kicked steps John, George, et al!) and crampons were used/needed. More ice than in George's crux photo below. Right side was fatter but still not well-bonded to the rock. Left side was good mixed climbing (M3-ish) with good tool sticks on right. Ice was thick enough in spots for shortie screws.
Sep 19, 2003
Climbed Flying Dutchman on 9.14.03. Really not in condition. Thought it might be a little better following the inclement weather. Had to scramble a ways to get on the snow which was really solid; however, screws bottomed out quickly. Lots of exposed rock and gravel. Lots of frozen kitty litter. Very loose. Crux ice was only a few inches thick and melting. Long day but the weather was perfect.
|By Brice W|
Aug 7, 2008
Climbed this 6/7/08. It was not long after a spring storm, so we kicked steps up this to the Loft, got a break on the Clark's Arrow traverse, and then kicked steps to the top. The ice at the crux took one 17cm screw, but there are plenty of placements in the rock to the left of the ice. The cracks are mostly parallel, so cams are a good call. It's a fun snow climb and combined with Clark's Arrow and a descent of the Cables route, a great traverse of Long's.
Sep 26, 2010
When does this usually get nice?/ Has anyone been up there recently?
|By Dan Holz|
From: Denver, CO
Nov 8, 2010
Just got back from doing an ascent on the Dutchman and descent down the Loft. Not a whole lot of ice right now, guys. (I had a total of two swings into actual ice.) The snow was super hard packed in places though, allowing you to cruise for most of the way. Having one ax and one tool (or a set of alpine tools for easier plunging) would have been ideal at this time.
Expect some dry tooling/awkward mantling through the crux in a no fall zone. We didn't break out the ropes once; however, it was nice to have the rope and pro just in case a rappel was needed.
I'm not sure what this latest storm is going to bring, but yesterday snowshoes were not necessary for the approach. There's a fair amount of slick ice on the main trail, so trekking poles wouldn't be a bad idea.
Note: if you are descending the Loft, be sure to find the easier class III route down. We got nailed by a nasty storm with 50mph+ gusts in near whiteout conditions and ended up on a super sketch, 5th class traverse along a snowy cliff face just below our intended exit route - looked like it would have been an amazing summer scramble though!
| || |Scoping out the route of the day.
Submitted By: Dan Holz on Nov 8, 2010
| || |Lars just finishing up the Dutchman's crux.
Submitted By: Dan Holz on Nov 8, 2010
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|By Andy Hansen|
From: Longmont, Colorado
Mar 16, 2013
rating: 4th WI3-
Climbed The Flying Dutchman on 3/14. Snow was decent for the most part. When almost at the ice, the snow got steeper and we were punching through past our knees. The ice took 13 and 17cm screws. The Loft descent was tricky but doable.