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Black Dagger
5.8 YDS 5b French 16 Ewbanks VI- UIAA 15 ZA HVS 4c British PG13
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Routes in Brownstone Wall
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Armatron T 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c |
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Arms Reduction T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a |
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Birthday Cake T 5.5 4b 13 IV+ 11 MS 4a |
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Black Dagger T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c PG13 |
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Cat Scratch Fever T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c |
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Chocolate and Cheese T 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a |
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Corruption of the Jesuit T 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a |
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High Anxiety T 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b PG13 |
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Hourglass Diversion T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a |
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Hueco Thanks T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b |
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Immaculate Conception T 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c |
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J + J Swerve T 5.10- 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a |
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Kentucky's Finest T 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c PG13 |
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Mayday Malefactor T 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b |
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Me, Myself and I T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b |
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Nightcrawler, The T 5.10+ 6b+ 21 VII+ 20 E3 5b |
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Peanut Brittle T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b R |
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Pegg Leg T 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c |
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Poopship Destroyer T 5.10- 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a |
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Pro Choice T 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c |
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Pro Life T 5.12b 7b 26 VIII+ 26 E5 6b |
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Requiem for a Tadpole T 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a |
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Sand Castle T 5.10a/b 6a+ 19 VI+ 19 E2 5b |
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Senior Dimensions T 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b R |
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Stone the Crows T 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b |
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Sweet Thin T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a |
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Ten Minute Shift T 5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a |
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Three Choclateers T 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a PG13 |
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Time's Up T 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a |
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Voodoo Lady T 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a |
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| Type: | Trad, 800 ft (242 m), 6 pitches, Grade III |
| FA: | Joe Herbst and Rick Wheeler, 1977 |
| Page Views: | 32,270 total · 111/month |
| Shared By: | George Bell on Apr 22, 2001 · Updates |
| Admins: | Luke EF, Larry DeAngelo, Justin Johnsen |
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Access Issue: Red Rock RAIN AND WET ROCK: The sandstone is fragile and is very easily damaged when wet.
Details
Holds rip off and climbs have been and will continue to be permanently damaged due to climbers not respecting this phenomenon. After a heavy storm, the rock will remain wet, sometimes for several days. PLEASE DO NOT CLIMB IN RED ROCKS during or after rain. A good rule of thumb is that if the ground near your climb is at all damp (and not powdery dry sand), then do not climb. There are many alternatives (limestone, granite, basalt, and plastic) nearby.
HUMAN WASTE Human waste is one of the major issues plaguing Red Rocks. The Las Vegas Climbers Liaison Council and the AAC provides free "wag bags" in several locations (Black Velvet, First Pullout, Kraft Mtn/Bouldering, The Gallery, and The Black Corridor). These bags are designed so that you can pack your waste out - consider bringing one to be part of your kit (just like your rope and shoes and lunch) no matter where you go. Once used, please dispose of them properly (do not throw them in the toilets at the parking area).
HUMAN WASTE Human waste is one of the major issues plaguing Red Rocks. The Las Vegas Climbers Liaison Council and the AAC provides free "wag bags" in several locations (Black Velvet, First Pullout, Kraft Mtn/Bouldering, The Gallery, and The Black Corridor). These bags are designed so that you can pack your waste out - consider bringing one to be part of your kit (just like your rope and shoes and lunch) no matter where you go. Once used, please dispose of them properly (do not throw them in the toilets at the parking area).
Description
This route is on the far left side of the Brownstone Wall and the approach takes about 2 hours. The route is in the sun most of the day so can be quite warm, although the 3rd and 4th pitch are in a recessed chimney and are shady except in the early morning.
We had some difficulty locating the start of this route. If you head up slabs which lead to the center of the Brownstone Wall, you will have to traverse left quite a ways to get to the route, even going down a bit. You are nearly back to the creek bed when you reach the base. The white overhang in Swain's topo on pitch 1 was not obvious to us. The best way to find the route is to locate the the overhang on the second pitch and the crack system above it.
P1: Climb a crack us through some soft rock to a block that is below a white roof (5.6, 120'). P2: Traverse left, then up to a crack at the far left side of the roof. Sock in some good gear (on long slings), then head up and back right on varnished plates to the crack which forms the right side of the roof (now below you). Continue up this crack to a belay ledge (5.7+, 140'). Swain calls this pitch PG but the runouts did did not seem bad to me. There is a runout above the roof but it is not as bad as that on the next pitch.
P3: Here is where you look up and say "Oh yeah, Swain did say to bring 'large gear' for this pitch ...". Above you is a fantastic black corner, but the back necks down into a fairly fat crack. I don't exactly recall the width of the crack, I just recall we didn't have anything big enough to fit in it (I'd guess it's 5-6 inches). You need a #5 Camalot or #3 Big Bro, and the crack might be too flared to fit the Big Bro (I don't think a #4 Camalot fits either). Stem and face climb up the corner, with or without pro, until you reach the base of a chimney (5.7, 130'). If you don't have any 5-6 inch gear, you will have to run it out at least 20', this is the S section. If you take big gear you may be able to walk it up and remove the S rating, please add comments below on this.
P4: Wander up into the darkness of a deep slot, exit left through a wild hole onto a huge ledge which faces south and (if it is late enough) into full sunshine (5.2, 100'). Two more pitches go more or less straight up from here, on softer rock. Great views of the Rainbow Wall to your south.
Descent: Head south into the Gunsight Gully and scramble back down to the start of the route. Pretty quick and easy descent.
We had some difficulty locating the start of this route. If you head up slabs which lead to the center of the Brownstone Wall, you will have to traverse left quite a ways to get to the route, even going down a bit. You are nearly back to the creek bed when you reach the base. The white overhang in Swain's topo on pitch 1 was not obvious to us. The best way to find the route is to locate the the overhang on the second pitch and the crack system above it.
P1: Climb a crack us through some soft rock to a block that is below a white roof (5.6, 120'). P2: Traverse left, then up to a crack at the far left side of the roof. Sock in some good gear (on long slings), then head up and back right on varnished plates to the crack which forms the right side of the roof (now below you). Continue up this crack to a belay ledge (5.7+, 140'). Swain calls this pitch PG but the runouts did did not seem bad to me. There is a runout above the roof but it is not as bad as that on the next pitch.
P3: Here is where you look up and say "Oh yeah, Swain did say to bring 'large gear' for this pitch ...". Above you is a fantastic black corner, but the back necks down into a fairly fat crack. I don't exactly recall the width of the crack, I just recall we didn't have anything big enough to fit in it (I'd guess it's 5-6 inches). You need a #5 Camalot or #3 Big Bro, and the crack might be too flared to fit the Big Bro (I don't think a #4 Camalot fits either). Stem and face climb up the corner, with or without pro, until you reach the base of a chimney (5.7, 130'). If you don't have any 5-6 inch gear, you will have to run it out at least 20', this is the S section. If you take big gear you may be able to walk it up and remove the S rating, please add comments below on this.
P4: Wander up into the darkness of a deep slot, exit left through a wild hole onto a huge ledge which faces south and (if it is late enough) into full sunshine (5.2, 100'). Two more pitches go more or less straight up from here, on softer rock. Great views of the Rainbow Wall to your south.
Descent: Head south into the Gunsight Gully and scramble back down to the start of the route. Pretty quick and easy descent.
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