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2 Ways 2 Hell T 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a
Another Unnamed Billy Bob Route S 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Beer Barrel Buttress S 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b
Beer Drinkers and Hell Raisers T 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Beer Pong T 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c
Chicken Dance S 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
Corniche T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Crack to Chimney T,TR 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Crack/Bulge T 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Fabulous Flying Carrs Route, The S,TR 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c
Ground Doesn't Lie, The S 5.10c/d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b
Half and Half 2 T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Handle This Hard On! S 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
Hellbound II T 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Hellraiser T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Here Today Gone Tomorrow S 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a
Hippy School T,TR 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
In Between the Lines S,TR 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c
Intuition S 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Mr. Coors Contributes to the Pink Stain T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Mr. Peery Take A Bow S 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c
Mr. Squirrel Places a Nut S,TR 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a
Mrs. Hen Places a Peck S,TR 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a
Natural Fact T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Off Line S,TR 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Pack 'o Bobs S 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Plumber's Crack, The T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Routefinding 101 T 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c
Serious Play T,TR 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c R
Sidelines S,TR 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Smear Me A Beer S 5.11- 6c 22 VIII+ 22 E3 5c
This Ain't Naturita, Pilgrim S,TR 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Toast & Jam? T 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
Top Rope Face TR 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b
Tora, Tora, Tora T 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c
Toura Handle T,TR 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c PG13
Toura Obscura S 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
War With A Rack T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
What Line? T,TR 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b
Wholly Holey S 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Type: Sport
FA: Guy Lords and Ken Trout, 1990
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Shared By: Richard M. Wright on Sep 13, 2001
Admins: Leo Paik, John McNamee, Frances Fierst, Monty, Monomaniac

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Description

Rolofson limits the Overhang area on its West (left) side with The Ground Doesn't Lie. Since there is a good break between The Ground and The Pigeon Pile Pinnacle in the Table Top area, I have followed suit here - for the time being. The Ground... is a small, three bolt, boulder problem (now extended and retrobolted to 7 bolts) that sits 50 feet left of the very popular 5.9 called In Between the Lines. Its most obvious feature is just being small (now less so). Surmount several tricky finger locks passing two clips and solve the crux at the third bolt. Hint: look around. This rounded buttress is something of an arete and has good holds on both sides. I thought that there was an additional sequence to be solved just getting to the anchor after the last bolt. This is a nice problem and is worth figuring out. It feels a little insecure.

Protection

Three draws and a rope. Now, this has 7 bolts.

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FYI, the third bolt is loose (not just a spinning hanger, the bolt itself is loose in the hole). Dec 21, 2015
Leo Paik
Westminster, Colorado
Leo Paik   Westminster, Colorado  
There is a TR variation that takes on the short dihedral to the left of the 2nd through 4th bolts. It is kind of fun. It's probably best not to forget to search to the left if you do this variation.

Oct 26, 2011
Dave Clark 5.10
Golden, CO
  5.10c
Dave Clark 5.10   Golden, CO
  5.10c
Seems an update might help, as this route has evolved from the original 3-bolt line to a longer 7-bolt line. Double top anchors are now about 15 ft higher than shown in Haas/Schneider book, and 7 bolts offer good protection for what is still a pumpy workout. Variation a few feet to the right is called "Top Rope Face", going to same top anchors.
Jan 10, 2010
Ken Trout
Golden, CO
  5.10c/d
Ken Trout   Golden, CO
  5.10c/d
We named it after a saying of John Sherman's. He had written how all sport-climbers lied about doing hard climbs and anyone who used a rope was a tension-taking liar. Sherman's idea was that only boulderers really did hard climbs because when boulderers fall they hit the ground and can't lie about failing. Hence his saying, "The ground doesn't lie."

I certainly wouldn't choose to lie about FA stuff, but I know why some folks might. More than once I've had folks "snake" lines that took days to clean and bolt. That's okay if it's not The World's Hardest Route. What's important is how many people are doing the route.

Traffic has really picked up on The Ground Doesn't Lie. What's different? Seven bolts, instead of three. Mar 12, 2004
This route is some of the pumpiest (is that a word?) 20ft of climbing at Table. I always come away feeling like I climbed farther than the 3 clips up there. Aug 8, 2002