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Shared By: Richard M. Wright on Mar 6, 2002
Admins: Leo Paik, John McNamee, Frances Fierst, Monty, Monomaniac

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Access Issue: Rim Rock Trail Closure Details


Begin Here Today Gone Tomorrow just left of the starts for Mr. Peery and Mrs. Hen. The 5.11 variation runs straight up, the standard line lines dodges left for a short distance. Either way converges on an airy step-over shortly before the anchors. While the 5.11 variation seems contrived, the step-over gives the route some interest.


Ten draws and a rope.


Leo Paik
Westminster, Colorado
Leo Paik   Westminster, Colorado  
Way contrived to do the 11d version! Mar 13, 2002
Jay Eggleston
Jay Eggleston   Denver
The route described here is called "Toura Obscura" in the Haas and Schneider guidebook. However, in Rolofson's 1995 guide it is called "Here Today Gone Tomorrow". Does anyone know which is correct? In the new guide, "Here Today Gone Tomorrow" is described as two climbs to the right. Feb 16, 2010
Dave Clark 5.10
Golden, CO
Dave Clark 5.10   Golden, CO
I believe the route being climbed in the photo is Toura Obscura. HTGT and ...Pink Stain share the crack on the right side of the photo. HTGT continues up the bolt line on the arete in the upper right of the photo, which actually trends further to the right than it appears in the photo. Pink Stain continues up the crack system to the double roof and over the second roof. Both Pink Stain and HTGT are 5.10ish and harder than Toura Obscura. Aug 19, 2010
John Tex
John Tex   Estes
Can someone explain something to me? I climbed the route titled HTGT in the Haas guidebook, and it calls it a nine, or an 11 if you stick to the arête. Also the first bolt is 30 feet up, bring a cam, or clip a bolt for another nearby route. It is a total of 5 bolts. MP says 10... Also, I flashed Bullet the Brown Cloud and the Flying Carrs route, 11b and a respectively, and not only couldn't finish the 11 variation, but could not even find the 9 route! Left of the arête there is nothing, so in my opinion you have to do the 11 and stay true to the arête.

Am I on the wrong route, is the guidebook off, of did I just get beat on this thing. The line in the guidebook shows you going up to a detached arête about 30 feet up, no bolts til then. And if this is Toura Obscura, can this be fixed.

Where is the 9? Feb 27, 2014
Tombo   Boulder
We climbed in from Mrs. Hen and used those two bolts to start. If you're going straight up the crack to the hand crack, you'd want a couple of pieces of gear. I thought the hand crack was harder than Blind Faith in Eldo. The humidity may have made it feel more difficult than it was, but it felt 10a to me. I tried going straight up the arete and couldn't manage it kept hanging trying to see what I was missing. Ended up climbing into the dihedral and back out to clip the bolts. Don't know if this is the way to do it, but it still felt harder than the grade. I think it had two cruxes of at least 10- each. May 24, 2014
Lakewood, CO
curt86iroc   Lakewood, CO
Much harder moves than the 5.9 directly to the left. If you climb the bolt line, the moves at the 2nd and 5th bolts put this at 10-. Nov 15, 2015
Boulder, CO
physnchips   Boulder, CO
Maybe I straddled the 9 and 11 variation, or got off route in some way, but I thought this was definitely harder than 9 but not as hard as an 11 variation. Regardless, I think both ways seem to have the step over move which I thought was hard and committing (unless it too has some 9 out that I missed). I guess split the difference and give it a 10. Sep 12, 2017
Brighton, CO
plantmandan   Brighton, CO
This is a really good route. As described in the caption, this route goes up the bolt line to the right of the climber in the photo. The first half of the climb is mostly shared with Mr. Coors before a ledge where the bolt line veers right.

At the upper part of the route, I used holds left of the bolt line and barely reached the bolts from my stance. The arete variation looked much harder. I used the crack until the base of the top roof and then went right for the step-over move. The step-over move is exposed and exciting, and it leads to a nice and juggy finish. Mar 17, 2019
Denver, CO
MAKB   Denver, CO  
Looks like this and Toura Obscura should be combined right? Flip a coin for the name? May 3, 2019