Type: Trad, TR, 45 ft
FA: Dick Williams (1963)
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Shared By: Nick Wilder on Sep 3, 2006
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Steep face climbing with lots of thin crimps. Fairly forgettable.


Located directly under the top of Ken's Crack, making it a quick and easy TR.


Slightly runout. A bolt (replaced in the late 2000s) + a few small nuts and tiny cams, easier to protect at the bottom.


I didn't forget this. It's a very hard, tricky little stretch. Bizarre footwork at crux--definitely hard 10. It had a single old bolt, and you'd deck if you fell on the 5.9 above crux. Top rope all the way.
Charie, face immediately right of Boston, is an excellent toprope as well. Stiff 5.9. Feb 19, 2008
Hoboken, NJ
  5.10+ PG13
lostlazy   Hoboken, NJ
  5.10+ PG13
I don't know when, but as of 11/6/09, the old 1/4" bolt has been replaced with a new standard bolt. After leading this I feel that the gear is strenuous to place, but there, definitely not R anymore. Nov 11, 2009
Benjamin Chapman
Small Town, USA
  5.10+ R
Benjamin Chapman   Small Town, USA
  5.10+ R
I couldn't disagree with Nick more. "Phoebe" is a great, intricate face route. Great horizontals and tricky footwork make "Phoebe" very memorable and worth doing, if you're finished with "Boston" or "Ken's Crack." Glad to know that it's a 5.10+ Aug 6, 2013
Jeffrey Dunn

  5.10b R
Jeffrey Dunn    
  5.10b R
Not 10+. It's PG if you think that the small gear at the final overlap will hold. I thought it would on lead, and didn't after bounce testing on the way down. 5.10b 5.9R to me. May 29, 2014
Ro Zuniga
  5.10c R
Ro Zuniga  
  5.10c R
Definitely not "forgettable" to me either. Very fun little problem at the 10 grade, not the longest in the world, but they don't all have to be. After climbing it yesterday I would have regretted skipping it because it was labeled forgettable. Sep 26, 2016