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Elevation: 6,400 ft 1,951 m
GPS: 35.81856, -106.18779
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The Old New Place is an east-facing basalt wall about 60 feet in height that offers many great crack lines for gear-protected leading or top roping. There are now bolted anchors here as a result of many of the cliff-top trees, that were traditionally used here as anchors, dying. Additionally, blocks and cracks near the cliff edge can be use to establish gear anchors.
The ONP doesn't see a lot of traffic but there are some wonderful crack lines to be climbed here.
Like all the areas in White Rock canyon, placement of new bolts is strongly discouraged as per a long-standing agreement of local climbers. The Los Alamos Mountaineers maintain a copy of the original agreement (1989) along with the amended agreement (2004) that allows for bolted anchors but still discourages new bolted lines.

Getting There Suggest change

From NM4, turn south on Rover Blvd. Turn left on the first street on your left, Meadow Lane. Stay on Meadow Lane for 1.3 miles and park near 719 Meadow Lane. Please respect the homeowners and don't block mailboxes or driveways. A concrete public access trail heads down between 719 and 721 Meadow Lane. You'll know you're on the correct trail if two large, seemingly nasty, Golden Retriever dogs are barking at you. At the end of the concrete veer slightly left and continue straight towards the cliffs following a good climber's trail down off the top of the cliff. As you start to descend off the cliff top, the Old New Place will be visible as the large cliff face to your left. Descend about 30 feet on the climber's trail and head left along the base of the cliff.

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Classic Climbing Routes at Old New Place

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5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
 24
Bee Sting
Trad, TR
5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
 26
High Roof Left
Trad, TR
5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
 11
Route 17
Trad, TR
5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
 20
Route 10
Trad, TR
5.10- 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
 15
High Roof Right
Trad, TR
5.10- 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
 9
Direct Start to Route 10
TR
5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b
 14
Tetherball
Trad, TR
5.10c/d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b
 7
Route 19
Trad, TR
5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c
 4
God Route (aka Mike's Route)
Trad, TR
5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c
 8
Berserker
Trad, TR
5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c
 4
4-Star Arete
TR
5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a
 16
Rattlesnake Crack (aka Sidewinder)
Trad, TR
5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a
 9
Sinewave (aka S Crack)
Trad, TR
5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a R
 4
Total Abstinence
Trad, TR
Route Name Location Star Rating Difficulty Date
Bee Sting
 24
5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a Trad, TR
High Roof Left
 26
5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a Trad, TR
Route 17
 11
5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a Trad, TR
Route 10
 20
5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a Trad, TR
High Roof Right
 15
5.10- 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a Trad, TR
Direct Start to Route 10
 9
5.10- 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a TR
Tetherball
 14
5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b Trad, TR
Route 19
 7
5.10c/d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b Trad, TR
God Route (aka Mike's Route)
 4
5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c Trad, TR
Berserker
 8
5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c Trad, TR
4-Star Arete
 4
5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c TR
Rattlesnake Crack (aka Side…
 16
5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a Trad, TR
Sinewave (aka S Crack)
 9
5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a Trad, TR
Total Abstinence
 4
5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a R Trad, TR
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