Type: Sport, TR, 35 ft
FA: unknown
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Shared By: Ben Mottinger on Dec 31, 2000
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Access Issue: Rim Rock Trail Closure Details


Climb up the face using the arete on the right side past the second bolt if necessary. The 5.10 variation goes straight up the face w/out using the arete at all. Note: the cold shuts on this climb and many around Table are being worn thin.


Four QDs and a #0.5 Friend for the horizontal break between the last bolt and the anchors.


The first moves are harder than 5.8 (5.9+) if you are less than 6'. Jun 25, 2001
Yup, the're not that easy even if you are 6'. A stout 5.8! Dec 19, 2001
Chris Zeller
Boulder, CO
Chris Zeller   Boulder, CO
I agree, I must not have found the 5.8 variation. If you aren't a 5.10 leader, I'd recommend leading Thelma and doing this one on TR first. Jun 28, 2002
This route is a lot of fun. You really don't need to be tall for these first few moves these other people are talking about. I'm 5' 6" and I got the moves just fine. You have to be careful on the first clip ( even though you can get it from the ground) because if the climber is the fall after the clip he is falling to the ground. Jun 30, 2002
I believe that the block with the two bolt anchor on this route is NOT safe and the whole thing may come down some day. Earlier this year there was a big rockfall in the gully to the left of this arete and I have to wonder about the stability of this section of the crag. Be careful! Dec 26, 2005
These climbs should be renamed Dumb and Dummer based on what the anchors were set in. I wonder if the FA party had any understanding of physics at all. Dec 28, 2005
Mike Pharris
Longmont, CO
Mike Pharris   Longmont, CO
Looked at the anchor block from several angles and while it is apart from the main body of the cliff, it appears to be very solidly sitting atop the tower. I feel like it'll hold all but a complete whipper of a leader fall and not budge at all. Jun 26, 2007
Matt Gates
Boulder, CO
Matt Gates   Boulder, CO
The anchor block may be perched securely, but there is a fracture line in the block itself. It's only a matter of time before it splits in two. This route and its neighbor should be "retired". Till then, avoid these climbs like the plague. Nov 25, 2007
J. Fox
Black Hawk, CO
J. Fox   Black Hawk, CO
Sh*t. No wonder I couldn't get up this thing! I thought, "How is it that I've onsighted several 5.8s and now I can't climb a 5.7?" I thought Thelma and Louise were both 5.7s. The face was definitely a 5.9 or 5.10. I moved onto the arete on the right. Jul 1, 2009
Paul Williams
Paul Williams   Bozeman
Goofy and underrated. Harder than I remembered, particularly on lead. I brought my daughter (17) here as a first time out for her in many years, thinking "ah 5.7/5.8 on top rope - no problem" Yikes! Jul 21, 2009
Bill Olszewski
Colorado Springs, CO
Bill Olszewski   Colorado Springs, CO
Fun route but it's pretty amazing that the collection of blocks at the top actually stays in place. It was interesting to layback that free standing block held in place only by the weight of the anchor block on top of it.... Sep 5, 2011
There is one head-sized, wedged rock holding this whole thing together. Know this before you climb it. Apr 6, 2013
Ed Krejcik
Broomfield, CO
Ed Krejcik   Broomfield, CO
I thought this route was harder than The Old Roof Route, and all the bolts are spinners. Nov 30, 2014
Lakewood, CO
curt86iroc   Lakewood, CO
Be careful. Between bolts 2 and 3 is definitely run out. Miss clipping the 3rd bolt and you'll face groundfall. Solid 5.9 IMO. Dec 10, 2014
Jim Fox
Westminster, CO
Jim Fox   Westminster, CO
Climbed this going straight up the middle of the face. Thought "Holy crap, this is the hardest 5.8 I've ever been on". Felt much harder than Interface or the Old Roof Route....

Looked on MP today & guess I did the "5.10 variant". Felt 5.9+ at least or easily could be 5.10a.

Fun but steep and sustained (but short).

The block at the top seems solid but is still a little scary.... Jan 19, 2015
David Tennant
Denver, CO
David Tennant   Denver, CO
The top block is still holding, somehow.... Luckily, there's a good stance on the right side of the rock, so you're not pulling out on the block while cleaning the anchors. As long as you're pulling down and not out, it feels okay-ish. Continue to avoid top-roping this route. Apr 30, 2015
L Kap
Boulder, CO
L Kap   Boulder, CO
All the moderates at Table Mountain are so sandbagged, it's hard to know what to rate this. 5.9- feels about right due to thin feet on the first move and long hard pulls up the arete. There's also a long move or two - I'm 5'7" and barely reached a couple.

I didn't notice the issues with the anchor block (yikes), but I did notice that the bolt hangers are old cold shuts and many of them move when you try to clip them. Same with Thelma, the 5.7 to the left on the same formation. Both of these climbs are probably accidents waiting to happen and best avoided. Apr 17, 2017
Mark Roth
Mark Roth   Boulder
All of the bolts were replaced today. The anchor was lowered to a safer spot. It's still in a detached block, but this one isn't falling apart and seems to be pinned in place.

Thanks to the ASCA for supplying the hardware. Mar 25, 2018
Chad Cowan
Aurora, CO
  5.9+ R
Chad Cowan   Aurora, CO
  5.9+ R
Whomever is grading out here needs to get spanked. I've lead many 5.7 to 5.9 trad and up to 5.11d on sport, this is very unfairly rated and not safe. Best to avoid it especially if you're are trying to bring a beginner. So far, the only routes I've seen in Colorado are sandbagged choss with way too many eliminates.... Whole lotta ego out here.... Mar 26, 2018