All Locations > New Mexico > Las Cruces Area… > Organ Mountains > Rabbit Ears Area > Citadel

Second Thoughts

Name: Second Thoughts
Rating: 3.0

5.9+ YDS 5c French 17 Ewbanks VI UIAA 17 ZA E1 5a British R

Routes in The Citadel

L › R R › L A › Z

	Anticipation T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a R
	Arch Rival T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
	Best Forgotten Art T 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c
	Clem's Folly T 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
	Finger Breakers TR 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b
	Finger Zinger S 5.10a/b 6a+ 19 VI+ 19 E2 5b PG13
	Glad We Came S 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
	Hercamur Snurd T 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c PG13
	Iron Worker T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
	Little Diddle T 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b
	Murray's Crack T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
	Nose, The T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
	Romper Room T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
	Second Thoughts T 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a R
	Stem Cell Research T 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b
	Sticks n Stones T 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b
	West Ridge T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
	Whole Banana T 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b
	Wish You Were Here T 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c

Order Wrong? Sort Routes

Type:	Trad, 70 ft (21 m)
GPS:	32.3717, -106.587
FA:	Karl Kiser and Matt Monagle, Summer 1981
Page Views:	1,071 total · 7/month
Shared By:	Jorge Achata on Sep 27, 2013
Admins:	Jason Halladay, Mike Hoskins, Anna Brown Page Updates (admin only)

You & This Route

2 Opinions

Your To-Do List: ·

Your Star Rating:
Rating

Your Difficulty Rating:
-none- Change

Your Ticks:Add New Tick

-none-

Explore this route in 3D

Use onX Backcountry to explore the terrain in 3D, view recent satellite imagery, and more. Now available in onX Backcountry Mobile apps! For more information see this post.

Access Issue: Power drilling is prohibited in the Organ Mountains Wilderness. Details

Description

Follow the right leaning hand and fist crack, an old bail out (old bolt and piton) is about 40 feet off the ground. An RP can help protect a constriction in the crack after that. After the crack, move to the right and come out to a ledge, may be a 15 ft runout to the next bolt/placement. Finish the climb with a couple fun face moves going up towards a two bolt anchor.

This is good climb for a summer morning, not too far from the arroyo trail.

Location

A short hike up the slabs in the canyon that heads east from the Nose takes you to this climb. There is a good topo of this and other routes in the main page of The Citadel. Second Thoughts is an obvious left-facing crack that goes up towards the right. Some hangers to the right of the crack can be seen from the ground.

Two-bolt anchor shared with Romper Room. A 60 meter rope is long enough to rappel. Anchor bolts may need replacement/back up.