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Compound, The 
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Dodge Block T 
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Gutter, The 
Koyannislotsqi 
North Crack T 
South East Arete/Second T 
South Sneak T 
Southeast Overhang T 
West Face [2nd Flatiron] T 
Yarbles, The 
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Free for All 

YDS: 5.6 French: 4c Ewbanks: 14 UIAA: V ZA: 12 British: S 4b

   
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Consensus:  YDS: 5.6 French: 4c Ewbanks: 14 UIAA: V ZA: 12 British: S 4b [details]
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Submitted By: Mike Sofranko on Sep 24, 2001

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Approaching the Pullmans car. Probably the wrong ...

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Description 

This is the standard east face route to the summit of the 2nd Flatiron.

Begin as for Freeway. When the Pullman Car is obvious above and to your left, drop down left into the gully. Climb the water polished gully via stair step holds for a bit, then head left to the obvious tree below the Pullman Car.

From the tree, head up a brief chimney-like crack to a steep face. This face is the first crux of the route, and is passed via a couple moves of 5.6. After this obstacle, you will be directly below the overhanging east face of the Pullman Car. The obvious crack above you is apparently 10+. Avoid these difficulties by heading left around the bottom of the car and work into the big gully. About 40 feet up the gully there is an obvious crack line through the south face fo the Pullman Car. This is the second crux of the route, and is also 5.6. Climb this, then head up the slab to the summit.

For the descent, carefully downclimb the exposed 5.0+ West Face. This can be tricky to onsight on the way down. Consider sending the less experienced climber down first on TR, placing pro to protect the second climber.

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Photos of Free for All Slideshow Add Photo
Mark high on the Pullman Car.
Mark high on the Pullman Car.
Tyson Arp trying to find his way onto the East Face of the Pullman Car.
Tyson Arp trying to find his way onto the East Fac...
Near the top of P1 of Free for All. Check out the climbers on Freeway in the background.
Near the top of P1 of Free for All. Check out the ...

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By Ryan Olson
Sep 19, 2003

My friend and I climbed the route today and when we got to the top we were a bit confused. The downclimb is not 4th class or 5.0 and after spending over a half an hour on the summit we decided to just put a sling around a boulder and rap down. If you do not normally solo then this down climb is definitely not for you as it is quite scary.
By Warren Teissier
Sep 20, 2003

Ryan, I agree, the downclimb is indeed scary, hard to sort out the first time and WAY exposed

An alternative to rappelling is to "downlead" the route the "weaker" climber goes first belayed from above and places gear frequently as he down climbs

Then, once on the ground, the "weaker" climber belays the person at the top. That person then downclimbs and cleans the pieces... That's how I did it my first time up there

Cheers, WT
By Andy Leach
From: Fort Collins, CO
Nov 14, 2005
rating: 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b

It took us 7 pitches to make it from near the base of the East Face to the top of the Pullman Car. I shot a short movie of our climb on November 11, 2005 - you can find on my web site: www.leachfam.com/securearea/1story.php?storyid=46
By Wes B.
Mar 6, 2010
rating: 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b

Did this route today. It was a little wet, but we were able to avoid most of the water/ice. We climbed the route in a total of 7 pitches. There were only 2 or 3 moves of 5.6 in my opinion. Why aren't there fixed anchors on top? Seems like most of the other main formations have them.
By Jason Maki
Mar 19, 2012

Did the route today and there are slings and rap rings on the summit. They are a little sketchy (old), but we rappelled from them just fine.
By mark felber
From: Wheat Ridge, CO
Sep 3, 2014

The downclimb from this rock was distinctly more exciting than the climb.