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Double Dip 

5.6

   

FA: Chris Gonzalez and Mona Stahl, October 1973
Type: Trad
Consensus: 5.6 [details]
Length: 1 pitch, 80 feet
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Submitted By: Orphaned on Jun 24, 2002


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Climbing out of the shadows.


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Double Dip is a nice beginner outing, featuring pro placements as well as the occasionaly bolt to make you feel better. An initial climb up a flake leads to enjoyable face climbing the rolls off at the top. Belay from a bolt anchor. Walk off the left side down ramps.


Protection 

Light rack up to #3 Camalot, bolts.



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Clipping the second bolt

Clipping the second bolt

Echo Rock - West Face Left

BETA PHOTO: Echo Rock - West Face Left

Second Clip relief starting off the top of the flake

Second Clip relief starting off the top of the fla...

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good beta about the #3 cam in the flake

good beta about the #3 cam in the flake

'Pooner' closing in on "The Dip"

'Pooner' closing in on "The Dip"

Ron following Double Dip; keeping your feet outside the crack is easier than trying to off-width the thing for sure.

Ron following Double Dip; keeping your f...

Ron following Double Dip; the bolts are a bit spaced on this route so just stay sharp and you should be A.O.K.!!

Ron following Double Dip; the bolts are ...

This was one of my first climbs after a two month lay-off from a wrist injury.  Leading was not an option yet.<br /><br />February 2008

This was one of my first climbs after a two month ...

Double the fun on Double Dip

Double the fun on Double Dip


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By Brian Reynolds
Nov 4, 2002

What a fabulous route!! For protection, the flake will take a #3 or #3.5 camalot, preferably with a sling or draw to reduce drag. Other than that, don't bother bringing up anything but draws. There are five bolts on the route (or was that four?), plus a two bolt anchor. 4 stars out of 5 (or 3 out of 3)

By Mike Epke
From: Denver, CO
Mar 16, 2003

Great route on very slabby rock. I believe there are only four bolts; however, plus the piece of gear you can place behind the flake. Awesome route.

By Locker
Jul 12, 2003

As I stated elsewhere, a cam is not a must but certainly a smart move. #3 camalot as suggested in the flake works fine. It is a very enjoyable, fun route and I highly suggest it for the intermediate leader due to the runouts. Others might do better to second or top rope.

By Locker
Sep 2, 2003

This was my sons second lead and he did it well. It is a good one for beginners to start on and it also is just one hell of a fun route regardless of the grade. On a stupid dad note, as he was setting up for me to second, I decided to solo it. Now that is not the stupid part. The stupid part is I forgot he would soon be throwing the rope and as I got near the third bolt...........wishhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh and Oh! Oh! as most of it caught me and just about threw me for a certain head banger. This type of behavior and stupidity I do not reccomend. But for myself, I'll probably do something similar soon enough. Too many in the 60's,70's,80's and all the way to the begining of the 90's. "Brain meltdown". Next!!!!!!!!!!!

By Dynomight510
From: San Diego
Sep 12, 2003
rating: 5.6

Bring pro to 4" for the flake unless you want to run it out to the second bolt. The climbing 'ON' the flake is easier than 5.6. If you fall before reaching the second bolt, you will deck. If you choose to climb the flake like an offwidth(?!)it's much harder.

Classic easy slab clibming

Solid for the grade

By Brian Reynolds
Sep 15, 2003

People are always talking about groundfall on this climb -- the only way there's any danger of that is if you only use the bolts. As you can see from the first action photo down below, the entire flake is very easily protectable with large cams (#3 or #3.5 Camalots work great), and you can reach the second bolt easily while standing on top of the flake.

By Graham Roff
From: San Diego
Mar 21, 2004
rating: 5.6

Was the first bolt there originally? It seems unnecessary as one more easy move puts you at the bottom of the flake where solid gear can be placed.Definitely one of the most fun slab routes for the grade.

By Randy
Mar 21, 2004

The 1st bolt was added many years after the route was originally done (but has been there for a long time too). I my opinion it is totally unecessary. But in light of the fact that it is a very easy climb and no one is really complaining about it, perhaps it is better to leave well enough alone.

By GoBotRocker
From: Spfld, Ma
Apr 29, 2004

Another fun route. We had the pleasure of meeting a Swarm of Bee's as they did a drive - by, while we were packing up after the climb. They Buzzed by two climber's and kept going without any incident's.

By Michael D. Thompson
Sep 20, 2004
rating: 5.6

Fun Route! a great one to start the day.

By Bo Johnston
Feb 6, 2005

I didn't think placing gear in the crack was very necessary, although not a bad idea if you're just starting out in the sport. A fun route well worth climbing.

By Jason Shatek
Apr 7, 2005

This is a very fun route. I would throw something into the flake on the way up. You'll deck for sure if you don't make the next bolt. I threw in a #5 friend, but the flake will take several different sizes. I was also able to place a yellow alien to the left and up after the second bolt. The route is pretty easy but be sure you trust your feet cuz there isn't many hand holds on this climb!

By Kellen Holt
Dec 31, 2005
rating: 5.6

A #3 Camalot and a #10 Trango flexcam protected the flake just fine. The moves off the flake are stout, but not impossible for the grade. Definitely not sport bolted at the top, but the higher you go, the easier the grade.

By Adam Stackhouse
Administrator
From: Escondido, Ca
Apr 16, 2006
rating: 5.6

A rare bolted 5.6 line in Joshua Tree.

By 46and2
From: Las Vegas, NV
Jun 11, 2006
rating: 5.6 PG13

EXCELLENT route but I would highly recommend throwing in a cam (3.5 or 4") into the wide crack on your way up as the second bolt is way the hell up there. Although typical slab, stay sharp on the slab above as the bolts are slightly spaced and a fall would not be that enjoyable. Two bolts for anchors up on ledge for belay and then walk off to the North.

By Mark L
Apr 30, 2007

If you are not used to josh friction and leading 5.7 or less you might want to have someone else lead if like me you get psyched out easy. Getting up to the bolt above the flake is straight forward and easier than 5.5 I think. I found the head game started at getting into the depression. That move seemed quite technical and felt psychologically more like a 5.7 and a little tenuous. A fall would have caused some nice scrapes for sure. I may just not have seen the move however.

After the depression, getting to the next bolt (up and left) required some time as well to see the feet, and played with my head a little. After that next bolt the feet and angle become easier. It could be that over the years this climb just gets more and more polished but the rating never goes up.

By Gary Schenk
Mar 3, 2008

Fun route. We did it on a fine Saturday in February. Echo Rock was incredibly empty! No lines for Double Dip, or Stichter Quits.

By Brian Hench
From: Laguna Beach
May 12, 2008

For what it's worth you can get a marginal Yellow TCU in a shallow crack before the third bolt. I would not want to fall on it, but it would be better than nothing.

By TomCaldwell
From: Clemson, S.C.
Jun 2, 2009

The crux clip is height dependent. Had my heart racing before and after that last bolt. Exciting!