Type: Sport, 70 ft (21 m)
FA: unknown
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Shared By: Jay Eggleston on May 8, 2016
Admins: Leo Paik, John McNamee, Frances Fierst, Monty, Monomaniac, Tyler KC

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This is a fun route but not one of the best at the wall. The crux is just above the first bolt moving from a lieback flake to higher rock above. The second bolt is hard to clip, and the whole route may be a bit harder now than the rating as a small foot hold, used by the leader, broke under the weight of the second. Above, the route goes up a shallow crack. We placed a piece near the top.

It is a good idea to build a belay anchor at the start which can be done with medium-sized cams.


This route is between Same As It Ever Was and Quagmire (which is not listed on this site). The next route listed here, to the right, is The Throttle. The start is from a ledge at the top of a hard 4th class, easy 5th class gully/ramp. You can get down using the bolt anchor at the top, and you can descend all the way to the bottom of the approach gully on rappel.


6 bolts and a small piece of gear. We used a 0.5 Tri Cam. Bob D'Antonio says to bring a 3.5 inch cam, but we saw no place for it. Small cams would work well. There is a 2 bolt anchor at the top.