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Ali Natural S 5.14b 8c 33 X+ 33 E9 7b
Aqua Huck V5 6C
Aquabats V6 7A
Arete V1-2 5
Beta Test S 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a
Bitch Strength V6-7 7A+
Crucifixtion S 5.13d 8b 31 X 32 E8 7a
Dark Waters V12-13 8B
Dark Waters Stand V9 7C
Dark Waters Traverse V10 7C+
Deep Sea Angler V7-8 7B
Dragonslayer S 5.12d 7c 28 IX 28 E6 6b
Enjoy Your Youth S 5.13c 8a+ 30 X- 31 E7 7a
Execution S 5.13d 8b 31 X 32 E8 7a
Flash Flood V6- 7A
Fluid Mechanic V9 7C
Formula 50 V11 8A
Formula 500 V12 8A+
Fountain of Youth S 5.13c/d 8b 31 X 31 E8 7a
Good Vibrations S 5.14b 8c 33 X+ 33 E9 7b
Green Herbs'n Sam V7 7A+
High Waters V5-6 6C+
Infinity V1 5
Kinky Reggae S 5.14a 8b+ 32 X+ 32 E8 7a
Kinky Reggae DS S 5.14a 8b+ 32 X+ 32 E8 7a
Know Your Enemies S 5.14- 8b+ 32 X+ 32 E8 7a
Know Your Inclinations S 5.14a 8b+ 32 X+ 32 E8 7a
La Mega Positive S 5.14b 8c 33 X+ 33 E9 7b
Love Your Enemies T,S 5.12a/b 7b 26 VIII+ 26 E5 6a
Love Your Inclinations T,S 5.12b/c 7b+ 27 IX- 27 E6 6b
Master Beta S 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
Merlin S 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a
Mobbin' Around V10-11 8A
No More Crucifixions S 5.14a/b 8c 33 X+ 33 E9 7b
No More Enemies S 5.14- 8b+ 32 X+ 32 E8 7a
No More Enemies DS S 5.14a 8b+ 32 X+ 32 E8 7a
No More Inclinations S 5.14a 8b+ 32 X+ 32 E8 7a
Positive Vibrations S 5.14b 8c 33 X+ 33 E9 7b
Public Crucifixion S 5.14a 8b+ 32 X+ 32 E8 7a
Public Enemy T,S 5.13c 8a+ 30 X- 31 E7 7a
Public Enemy DS S 5.13d 8b 31 X 32 E8 7a
Public Execution S 5.14a 8b+ 32 X+ 32 E8 7a
Public Inclinations T,S 5.13d 8b 31 X 32 E8 7a
Public Inclinations DS S 5.13d 8b 31 X 32 E8 7a
Public Youth S 5.14- 8b+ 32 X+ 32 E8 7a
Red Makes Me Angry! V6-7 7A+
Sonic Vibrations S 5.14b 8c 33 X+ 33 E9 7b
Sonic Youth S 5.13a 7c+ 29 IX+ 29 E6 6c
Swamp Traverse V9 7C
Sweet Inclinations S 5.13d 8b 31 X 32 E8 7a
Sweet Inspirations S 5.13c 8a+ 30 X- 31 E7 7a
Than's Problem? V8 7B
Unknown at New River S 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a
Wet Carrot (aka Under Your Clings) V6-7 7A+
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Type: Sport
FA: Kurt Smith/Mike Pont, 1990
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Shared By: Nate Weitzel on Dec 31, 2000
Admins: Leo Paik, John McNamee, Frances Fierst, Monty, Monomaniac

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This is one of Clear Creek's best climbs. The route ascends the steep ceiling and finishes with an awesome, overhung dihedral. The route used to be rated 12d, so maybe the correct rating is 12d/13a. Either way this route will challenge you. The initial moves are powerful, but solid, while the final crux requires endurance and good body tension. There are some classic moves on the route that will leave you smiling. A couple moderate rests can be found to help with the redpoint effort. It is highly recommended.

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9 bolts, 3 coldshuts anchor. The third clip on this route is tricky to make. Cleaning this route can be done by threading the rope up through the coldshut on the arete and then the two out right. This prevents the rope from running over the sharp edge. Or it is possible to lower off the coldshut on the arete and the last bolt on the climb if fixed gear is in place. Lowering here will put you about five feet out in the river, but it is possible to keep dry by stepping on some rocks, or have your belayer reach out to you.
Jay Samuelson
Denver CO
 
Jay Samuelson   Denver CO
 
Hey Keith, my beta for the last boulder problem was as follows:

Warning - Beta spray!!
Once on the good rail to clip the second to last bolt, I go right hand up to a gaston, get some wide feet and then grab a left hand pinch. Bump the left hand to a second pinch even wider out (original crux), then re-arrange the feet and stab into a digit-and-a-half pocket under the roof with the right hand. Some more foot trickery allows you to bump the left hand a few times to the final crimp/pinch just above the roof with the left hand, then a right slap up to the jug. A few friends of mine were doing some crazy drop knees through this section, but i was going with a stemming solution through there.

Good luck and happy climbing! Apr 5, 2011
WARNING: DO NOT READ FURTHER IF YOU DON'T WANT ANY BETA. This is an attempt to add some meaningful commentary to this climb other than the Sven Slander. I fired this route today after a ton of work, and have to say that it is just stupendous climbing. First you've got to deal with a ceiling. WOW! I actually thought this was the hard part. Here's why. Right off of the ground you get two easy moves to clip the first two bolts and then it's all business to the first rest. A powerful undercling leads to small but positive edges(that I would make the powerful 3rd clip from) then a big toss to a good flat edge that you stack on and then toss again to a hideous right hand gaston on the ceiling. Move off of this quickly to get a good hold to clip bolt 4 from. Lunge out to the lip, clip 5 and then lie back up (forearms screaming) and make another toss to a big love jug and up into the first stem rest. Woo! The next section is some tricky crimp and foot work up to a big no hands rest and then you get to wrestle with a way cool bouldering problem, split by the possibility of a clip or not to clip conundrum. Climbing out of the rest, poke your head out from under the little roof, clip, and grab what I and my buddy Jack call the "Mini Gaston". Now reach out left for a first pinch, and then lunge again for a further pinch. When that is in hand, pull up hard for a very incut right hand edge and ask yourself the question, "shall I clip, or shall I conserve energy?" (I actually clip now but was taking a wild 30 footer while working the route when I didn't have the power-endurance to clip). After you make the decision, get your left foot up, cross up and over the mini roof with your left hand, lie back the tiny edge with a little thumb catch, then pull up for a right hand sloper and lunge for the last mega jug. Now feel good!

OBSERVATIONS: From climbing this with a bunch of different climbers; if you are a boulderer you will not find the upper crux super hard and you will more than likely find your work down low. If you are a power endurance, little waif, spider, munchkin climber, you may find that your work is up top. For either group, it offers stellar sections of both power and power-endurance. If you are like Sven, you will flash it.

Have at it, and have a blast! Aug 2, 2003
Nolan Robertson
  5.13a
Nolan Robertson  
  5.13a
Love the epic finishing hero jug! Grabbing that thing is awesome! Apr 7, 2017
Stephen Felker
Boulder, CO
Stephen Felker   Boulder, CO
For the fixed gear record: I recently replaced the last of the aluminum rope-end biners with black, steel Petzl Djinns. Also replaced a couple of the worst fiber draws, including the long fixed sling at the first crux on draw 4. When you replace the dogbones, please reuse the steel biners and stainless 8mm quicklinks that I gifted to the route. They could outlive the bolts. Nov 5, 2015
Curt MacNeill
Boulder, CO
 
Curt MacNeill   Boulder, CO
 
What an awesome route! I got on this route first about 2 years ago, I couldn't even do the start moves. Just last fall, I still could not do the upper crux and hadn't got to the top. I started working this route June of this summer. I got so close to sending, but when the heat and humidity of this summer set in, it proved challenging. I had one hung the route pretty much every burn I did for the last couple of weeks. I went super hungover one day. My head was spinning (I think I was still drunk) and climbed all the way to the top falling just before the clipping jug. I have been on numerous occasions when it was so hot and humid it felt like there was a layer of slime on every hold and again I could get all the way the end of the upper crux in a single burn. The last day I went, there was a gnarly thunderstorm that came through in the evening and there was mad seapage. It was also incredibly humid. The funny thing is the holds just after the upper stemming rest right before the upper crux were soaking wet. I had to chalk up in the middle of the crux, because my hands were wet and I still managed to get within one hold of the top, but still NO send! I knew the route was going to go down. Today, I found a friend to throw me a catch insisting to them that I would get it on my first try. Without a warm up and minimal stretching, I walked the route with ease on my first try. In fact, when I got to the clipping jug, I was not pumped and could have probably sent the route a second time right after it with no rest. I really just needed ideal conditions. And even though the temp was in the mid '90s, the conditions were not humid, none of the holds were wet, and I wasn't hung over. Apparently that's all I needed. I took a massive victory whip after grabbing several arm lengths of rope and jumping off. Man it feels good to put this route to bed. So stoked! I need to give a shout out to my homeboy Dan Levison for giving all those soft catches and giving me rides in his air conditioned Audi S4 wagon.... Jul 24, 2011
Keith H. North
Englewood, CO
  5.13a
Keith H. North   Englewood, CO
  5.13a
Brian is awesome! His long draw also removes any sketchiness on the 4th clip of Sonic. The first draw on Sonic is gon,e so FYI if you want to clip it, you will need to bring your own.

And @ Brian... anytime you need a catch, hit me up. I am free any day of the week. Apr 28, 2011
Darren Mabe
Flagstaff, AZ
Darren Mabe   Flagstaff, AZ
Excellent linkup vision, Brian. You're an animal! Apr 28, 2011
Mike, thanks for considering New Economy Cliff for a tyro. It seems that a properly placed tyrolean would not pose an attractive risk to non-climbers. The Mission Wall tyro has existed for years and is difficult enough to get to that most yahoos won't mess with it, but it does provide great access to climbs across the creek. Also, having a reasonable way for climbers to cross Clear Creek avoids the risk of them attempting to cross in high water. Cables also seem to be less visible as well which helps the noob factor. The Sonic Youth tyro was clearly unnecessary as it's easy to walk an extra 10 minutes across the bridge. It would be encouraging to see JCOS take a more supportive stance toward the tax paying climbing community. Apr 12, 2011
Keith H. North
Englewood, CO
  5.13a
Keith H. North   Englewood, CO
  5.13a
Thanks Mike,

Too bad humans couldn't be a little smarter and lawyers less available.

In other news... I intend to replace the first draw with a steel fixed draw, this way it wears a little slower.

And there are a few other draws that aren't "dangerous" but are somewhat scary, I'm going to head to REI tonight and pick up a few cheap wire gates to switch out. Apr 8, 2011
Mike Morin
North Conway, NH
Mike Morin   North Conway, NH
Hey guys, let me try to address both of your questions. In regards to the reasoning for not permitting tyroleans, the primary concern stems from them being a liability for the non-climbing public. The canyon sees a fair share of recreation outside of the typical climbing, kayak crowd, and there is a concern that these river crossings could be attractive to people that don't have the proper gear or knowledge to safely use a tyrolean. With that said, we will be discussing tyroleans at our next Climbing Committee meeting, with some focus on the suggestion for New Economy Cliff. I'll post an update when I have some more information. I encourage anyone with thoughts and suggestions to shoot me an e-mail regarding this issue. Apr 8, 2011
Would there ever be the possibility of getting an OS permitted tyro for the New Economy Cliff installed? That crag is essentially unusable since the water is too high when it's warm enough to climb there. A cable would be the most resistant to nimrod damage and would keep too many non-climbers from getting across the creek if that was deemed to be undesirable. Apr 7, 2011
Keith H. North
Englewood, CO
  5.13a
Keith H. North   Englewood, CO
  5.13a
Question @ Mike

Just curious, why have tyroleans been banned in the canyon, is it just aesthetics or something more? Apr 6, 2011
Mike Morin
North Conway, NH
Mike Morin   North Conway, NH
Hey guys, myself and another ranger removed it a couple of days ago. Upon returning to our trucks, the owner of the rope showed up and we were able to return it to him. Thanks for your concern. Apr 6, 2011
Jay Samuelson
Denver CO
 
Jay Samuelson   Denver CO
 
Hey Keith, I would recommend leaving it for either the person who put it up to take it down or the JeffCo rangers. Apr 6, 2011
Keith H. North
Englewood, CO
  5.13a
Keith H. North   Englewood, CO
  5.13a
Thanks for your help, Monty and Jay! Hope to get the route in the next couple goes.

Would it be in-appropriate to cut the tyrolean down my next time there, or should I just leave it for the person who put it up to take care of? Apr 6, 2011
Monty
Golden, CO
  5.13a
Monty   Golden, CO  
  5.13a
In regards to the tyrol:
This should be taken down ASAP. Jeffco Open Space does not allow tyrols with the exception of the Mission Wall tyrol (which was grandfathered in). Whoever put it up, please take it down (if the Open Space hasn't already), so we can keep a good relationship with the Open Space.

The approach only takes 5 minutes without the tyrol anyway.

Beta wise:
From the rail, I'm a little fuzzy on beta, but I remember a really crucial left heelhook that allows you to suck in really tight and bump your right hand twice, realease the heel and start stemming your right foot behind you getting a wicked drop knee.

Cheers Apr 4, 2011
Keith H. North
Englewood, CO
  5.13a
Keith H. North   Englewood, CO
  5.13a
Just an FYI: there is a tyrolean up slightly to the west of Merlin.

Also, could someone give me some beta for the last little bit? I had some serious trouble figuring it out. I was getting to the rail where you clip the second to last draw and have it all figured out to that move, but from there, what does one do?

Incredible route :) Apr 3, 2011
Blake Cash
Chattanooga, TN
5.13-
Blake Cash   Chattanooga, TN
5.13-
Did this route yesterday and hadn't been on it since the jug up top broke off. Way better now IMO as the new crux ends at the jug by the chains instead of at the now broken hold. Much, much harder crux sequence, too. If it was 12d/13a before, I'd say it's hard 13a now as the top crux is V6 on its own. Couldn't figure out how to clip the draw by the broken hold either...so I just skipped it and went to the top.

I think the route received an upgrade when that hold broke...way cooler. Apr 11, 2010
Yo Jay,
I feel some 3 Sister action must be addressed, but I've got biz at the Primo wall that needs my attention. From the sound of things, you seem to have the same needs to crush at the Primo Wall that I do!! Want to go tomorrow morning?? I would like to get on "Shine" and a few others. What say you?? Sep 22, 2009
Jay Samuelson
Denver CO
 
Jay Samuelson   Denver CO
 
No one messed with the line, but a few holds have broken off this year. Early in the year the right half of the starting jugs broke, but it didn't change much. Then around the end of june the incut crimp that you got right at the top after the crux moves broke off; the entire block is gone. The new crux moves are hard but solid, and I don't think the grade has changed. So if anyone's to blame it's mother nature, but I think she just wanted to give us a new challenge to work on.

We still need to get out to three sisters, and I see your working some routes at Primo I'm interested in. Give me a call and let's do some climbing. Sep 20, 2009
Cool!! Others have used the head jam-thing!! Are you saying the top hold has been messed up??? I heard the bottom has been jacked as well?? What's the deal? This line was perfect why would anyone mess with it!!! or any other line for that matter!!??!! Thanks for the info Jay van Sam. Sep 20, 2009
Jay Samuelson
Denver CO
 
Jay Samuelson   Denver CO
 
Hey Luke, myself, and a few, I've been trying this route with all use the same head-jam rest to get ready for the crux. Definitely an awkward rest, but hey, whatever works right? Kinda insecure position, and you really crank on those calves to make sure you don't come peeling out of there.

BTW, this route has been sent by a friend a few weeks ago, sans mega-jug finishing hold at the top. We all know it wasn't a jug, but compared to whats up there now it sure seems like it. So, yes, the route still goes, and in good style (at least by those who have technique, unlike myself). Sep 18, 2009
When I sent this route many years ago, I remember getting this unsuspecting no hands rest via a difficult and slightly painful head jam just bellow the final upper crux section. I could milk it for a good 10-30 second rest or more... and it was sweet. It made the line go for me.

The rest is not obvious nor is it conventional and it was the first and only head jam I've every found which was of some practical use. For me, it helped de-pump a good bit while boosting my confidence for the last section of bouldering!!

I wonder if anyone else has tried or used this head jam that I speak of?? Sep 13, 2009
Darren Mabe
Flagstaff, AZ
Darren Mabe   Flagstaff, AZ
Gatch, that first rest is for us tall bastards, because we can't get our finger tips in the crack! Congrats on your send!
;) Aug 22, 2008
Jamie gatchalian
denver, co
  5.13a
Jamie gatchalian   denver, co
  5.13a
What a great route! The first 'rest' is awful for those of us that are short (5'7"), and the second 'rest' pumps out your calves. Barely got anything back. Made it that much sweeter to hang that finishing jug on link. This rig was well worth the effort. Aug 22, 2008
chris deulen
Castle Rock
  5.13a
chris deulen   Castle Rock
  5.13a
Tom, I didn't think Anarchitect was harder. Plus, the first "rest" on SY isn't that great, and the no-hands rest up top is nerve-wracking. I haven't been on Head Like a Hole, but in my opinion, this endurance piece has moves worthy of the 5.13 grade. Difficulty is relative for different people, so your logic in comparing it to Head may not be reasonable in this circumstance. Jun 1, 2006
Tom C  
To add to my previous post, Head Like a Hole is much more difficult than Sonic Youth, and that gets a slash rating of 12d/13a. So, Sonic Youth clearly cannot be 13a, especially because of the considerable rests on it.

I'd give you 13a if you climbed past the rests, but what would be the point in that? Apr 19, 2006
Tom C  
12c, easier than Anarchitect for sure.

I also heard that this was the original rating, not 12d. Apr 19, 2006
Tod Anderson  
 
No big surprise that Jeffco rangers are the problem here. There are an awful lot of them & they don't have much real work to do, like building trails or anything useful like that. Fortunately, it's relatively easy to get around the tyro at this particular location. Hopefully they won't mess with anything else in the canyon. Sonic Youth is well worth the walk around. Oct 11, 2005
chris deulen
Castle Rock
  5.13a
chris deulen   Castle Rock
  5.13a
Our tyrolean was taken down yet again. Upon replacing it with a third, my friend Chris Harkness left a note with his info stating that if someone was going to take it down to contact him. Lo and behold, two weeks later Jeffco Open Space contacted him, citing that it was an "eye sore" and a "danger" since people that don't climb may use it without knowing what they're doing. In my opinion, people don't need a rope crossing a river to endanger their lives in this canyon, just a severe lack of common sense. As far as the eye sore goes, I've only ever been able to see it if I was looking for it. The only reason tourists pull over here is to watch climbers. I really wonder if anyone has ever complained formally to Jeffco about all the "eye sores" in CCC ("Damn it! Every time I'm going to gamble I have to look at all the ugly things those climbers are puttin' in!"). So, enjoy the hike, which is probably more dangerous than a tyrolean. Oct 9, 2005
This route certainly rivals Anarchitecht as the best route in the canyon. I ignored Clear Creek for many years because of the road noise, but have started climbing there more in the past few years. How did I manage to avoid this climb until this week? This has to be the best bolted route within 50 miles of Boulder. I won't comment on the grade; I'll just praise the route for its quality. May 12, 2004
I was working this thing before and after the two holds broke. It sounds like A.D. broke the right sidepull. Pete Sharp then broke one of the right-gaston holds. I found that the crux went fine with the remaining right-gaston hold, and prefer this beta to that with the broken holds. So, I don't think the grade changed. -Mike Sprague Nov 1, 2002
I was just on this route. The crux at the top goes just fine though I don't remember what it was like before this hold broke. Still 13a in my book. Oct 22, 2002
I pulled off a hold at the top crux about a month ago - it was a pretty critical R-hand sidepull (for the sequence I had) - I didn't have time to figure out an alternative, but it seems that it may be a grade harder now. Sorry. Oct 21, 2002
Stefan Griebel
Boulder, Colorado
Stefan Griebel   Boulder, Colorado
A couple of holds have broken off towards the top - you can see the fresh rock and chalk lines where they used to be. I'm not sure if the climb is harder now though since I was never on it when these holds existed. Has anybody done it before and after? Oct 21, 2002
We had quite wonderful week climbing cracks in Utah desert. Coming back to Boulder Friday evening we stopped for the route Sonic Youth. This short power route has good sequence on big holds to start on very steep angle. Next is dihedral with many good places to rest. To end is small roof with power move. This route was good flash for me after some rest in dihedral and some struggle not to fall off in the finishing move. Very nice. Aug 18, 2001
Nate Weitzel  
 
It is good to hear some of the history behind the ratings for this route. I had only heard talk from a number of people on what they said it was rated, hence my write up for the page and the rating comment. I think that by the time you pull that final roof move, the 13a is definitely earned. Jan 1, 2001