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Conservative Policies
5.8 YDS 5b French 16 Ewbanks VI- UIAA 15 ZA HVS 4c British
Avg: 1.9 from 90
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Routes in The Thin Wall
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Ain't Nothing but a J-Tree Thing T 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b |
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Almost Vertical T 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b |
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Butterfingers Make Me Horny T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c |
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Child's Play T 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b R |
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Chocolate is Better Than Sex T 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c R |
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Congratulations T 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b R |
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Conservative Policies T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c |
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Count on Your Fingers T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a |
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Count Your Blessings T,TR 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a |
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Face of Tammy Faye, The T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c |
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Felicitations T,TR 5.4 4a 12 IV 10 VD 3c |
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Hidden in Plain Sight T 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b |
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Keith's Work TR 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c |
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No Calculators Allowed T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a |
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Peculiar Taste Buds T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c |
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Sandbag T 5.10+ 6b+ 21 VII+ 20 E3 5b PG13 |
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Square Root T 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c |
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| Type: | Trad, 50 ft (15 m) |
| GPS: | 34.01437, -116.17276 |
| FA: | Alan Bartlett & Debbie Daigle, March 1988 |
| Page Views: | 2,470 total · 9/month |
| Shared By: | Tony B on Dec 24, 2003 |
| Admins: | Greg Opland, C Miller, Gunkswest, Mike Morley, Adam Stackhouse, Salamanizer Ski, Justin Johnsen, Vicki Schwantes |
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Access Issue: Climbing Regulations/Seasonal Raptor Closures Details
Details
The Joshua Tree National Park Superintendent's Compendium states that:
1. Vegetation is not allowed to be used as an anchor.
2. Only neutral or rock-colored bolt hangers are allowed. A permit is required to replace or add new bolts: nps.gov/jotr/planyourvisit/…
Seasonal Closures:
The presence of a nesting owl in very close proximity to a variety of climbing routes, "Right On," "Orange Flake," "Kid Caligula," requires closure until the nest has been abandoned to ensure the protection of the species for the duration of the nesting activities. This closure will be in effect from February 17, 2026 until June 7, 2026; or until the nest has been abandoned.
The presence of a prairie falcon nesting in very close proximity to a variety of climbing routes requires closure of "Fat Freddie’s Cat,” “Freak Brothers Dome,” “The Weenie,” “Pea Brain,” and “The Red Obelisk." This closure will be in effect from February 17, 2026 until June 7, 2026; or until the nest has been abandoned
For a complete list of climbing rules and closures visit: nps.gov/jotr/planyourvisit/…
1. Vegetation is not allowed to be used as an anchor.
2. Only neutral or rock-colored bolt hangers are allowed. A permit is required to replace or add new bolts: nps.gov/jotr/planyourvisit/…
Seasonal Closures:
The presence of a nesting owl in very close proximity to a variety of climbing routes, "Right On," "Orange Flake," "Kid Caligula," requires closure until the nest has been abandoned to ensure the protection of the species for the duration of the nesting activities. This closure will be in effect from February 17, 2026 until June 7, 2026; or until the nest has been abandoned.
The presence of a prairie falcon nesting in very close proximity to a variety of climbing routes requires closure of "Fat Freddie’s Cat,” “Freak Brothers Dome,” “The Weenie,” “Pea Brain,” and “The Red Obelisk." This closure will be in effect from February 17, 2026 until June 7, 2026; or until the nest has been abandoned
For a complete list of climbing rules and closures visit: nps.gov/jotr/planyourvisit/…
Description
This route is shown clearly in the attached Photo. To reach it, approach the thin Wall's E. Side and orient according to the photo. This would best be described as the left-most route of the right half of the wall, just right of the large right-facing corner at the 1/2 way point. Climb a crack system upward just to the beginning of a bulge up top, then go up and right as necessary to stay in good rock and good holds.The route is traditionally rated (Vogel guide) as 5.8, but it seems that everything at Thin Wall is overgraded and this felt farer at 5.7.
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