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And Say

Name: And Say
Rating: 3.9

5.11 YDS 6c+ French 23 Ewbanks VIII- UIAA 23 ZA E4 5c British

Routes in (E) The Velvet

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	Alpinist's Secret Handjam, The T 5.10+ 6b+ 21 VII+ 20 E3 5b
	And Say T,TR 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c
	Golden Age of Ballooning, The T,TR 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
	Impressions from Pablo's Country T 5.10+ 6b+ 21 VII+ 20 E3 5b
	Legend of Wyldman James, The T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
	Pumpkin Toadlet T 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c
	Say When T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
	Sounding the Alarm* T,TR 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b
	Sweet Nuthin T 5.10b/c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b
	Velvet Pedestal, The T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
	Walk on the West Side T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
	West Ridge, The S 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b

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Type:	Trad, TR, 300 ft (91 m), 5 pitches
GPS:	47.82514, -121.55905
FA:	Derek Pearson, Michal Rykiewicz, Ryan Hoover, Chandler Davis
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Shared By:	Derek Pearson on Apr 24, 2015
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P1 5.7 Use the handline to get to the corner. Climb the corner.

P2 11b Splitter finger crack. Use single rack double blue and yellow metolious sizes if you wanna sew it up.

P3 10a More splitter, but cruiser with a sting in the tail finish. Added a bolt on this at the end instead of using cams in the pockets.

P4 11+ Crimpy start leads to a crystal pocket and small over lap then some of the coolest friction slab around Index maybe, I don't know so comment below if you think so as well. Bring one cam .2 or yellow metolious size and 14 draws for this includes anchors. Crux can be easily aided to make sweet 5.10.

P5 11+ Splitter tips just to first knuckle for 20' then capped with a steep bolted finish.

If you want to top out on the wall, or just avoid pitch 5, traverse left (west) on the ledge at the top of pitch 4, move into the easy corner and go up.

60 meter rope can get you down

14 draws

Single rack to 3" double from the 0 to 2 of metolious sizes

Single set of nuts 1-6 we only placed a couple