Type: Sport, 100 ft (30 m)
GPS: 43.7201, -113.07682
FA: FA: Mike Engle and Linda Engle, July 2017 bolted by Chris Barnes, Vernon Phinney, and Mike Engle, July 2017
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Shared By: Mike Engle on Jul 24, 2017
Admins: Mike Engle, Eric Bluemn

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This is one of 6 routes that is accessed from the broad ledge below a broad steep face called "The Wall". Use one of 4 approach pitch options (Don't Bring Me Down, I Turn to Stone, Stairway to Heaven, or Barracuda) to gain chain anchors on a comfortable ledge.

Us and Them starts just right of the chain anchors and climb straight up continuous, steep thin chert for 100 feet right up the middle of the face. 

This is a perfect route to get into the Zen of chert climbing.  The chert is strong but brittle, especially when wet. Be careful to place feet on holds and don't kick them. The holds are half pad crimps to full on jugs. Thin and thoughtful climbing starts immediately off the ledge and doesn't let up until you clip the anchors.

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Middle route on "The Wall".

See the beta picture for relative location.

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12 bolts, chain anchors. Single rappel on a 60 meter rope gets you back to the ledge. Another single rappel on a 60 meter rope gets you back to the ground.

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