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A Good Day to Die T 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a R
Flamboyant Arrow, The T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Last of the Gohegans, The T 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a
Little Big Horn, The T 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
Little Big Man, The T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Squaws In Heat T 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
Tribal Gambling T 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b
Welcome to Indian Country T 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Type: Trad, 140 ft
FA: Vernon Steifel & Bob Passerini, 12 / 2003
Page Views: 395 total, 2/month
Shared By: Vernon Stiefel on Dec 13, 2003
Admins: C Miller, M. Morley, Adam Stackhouse, Salamanizer suchoski, Justin Johnsen, Vicki Schwantes

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Description

Begin just right of "Little Big Horn" in a sandy wash at the base of the crag. Bouldery moves gain a left facing dihedral with an offwidth crescent shaped crack on the right. Awkward moves (5.9) lead to a small roof with a solid thin horn above the roof. Pull the roof (5.9) and continue in the left slanting finger / hand crack surrounded by vibrant orange rock. The crack becomes low angle near the top and ends on a ledge. Veer right for 15' to a larger ledge then back left to the rappel anchors. A little dirty down low but another great warmup.

Protection

A variety of cams from 0.5" to 5" and stoppers protect this relatively lengthy crack / face climb. The route ends on a ledge just right of the "Little Big Horn" rappel anchors. Two rope rappel to the ground.

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Murf
  5.9
Murf  
  5.9
Initial moves are pretty dirty, and there are a few other sections of crummy rock. Good over, but not the best the cliff has to offer. May 30, 2005
Locker
Yucca Valley, CA
Locker   Yucca Valley, CA
Vern.......The verdict is in and Judge Locker says it is AOK! Jan 8, 2005
Randy  
There is no problem with having mor than one route with the same name. I think there are several examples of this already having occured at Josh. One example is "Oh God!" which is either a 10c on Indian Head or a 5.2 in the Pope's Hat area. [And there is "Oh God, Its My Boss" as well...]

Personally, lets have more routes with exact same name. It makes things more interesting. Jan 8, 2005
I didn't realize that "The Flaming Arrow" was an existing route on The Rockwork Rocks formation near Barker Dam when I used the same name for a FA at Indian Country last year. Randy, please change the name to "The Flamboyant Arrow" for your next guidebook edition. Mike, please do the same on the website.

I am hopeful that the local J-Tree climbing community will overlook my egregious error and that Judge Locker will no longer have to spend precious seconds pondering the ethics of using a name for a FA that has already been used for a different route in the same climbing area.

Jan 8, 2005
To whom it may concern...I did not make this post about the Flamming Arrow... someone posted under my name...(Sounds like what they do one my website!)....I don't kow anything about 2 climbs with this same name....(And my route names are usually much more "colorful".) Jan 5, 2005
Locker
Yucca Valley, CA
Locker   Yucca Valley, CA
Out of curiousity, Todd mentions that there is already a route named Flaming Arrow. Who did the FA and what are the ethics involved in having a second go at an already existing name for a route? Also, Todd, how about some more info on the first Flaming Arrow?................(I know.......look it up in a guide. I'll be over to check your extensive collection...) Jan 4, 2005
There's already a route called Flaming Arrow on Rockwork Rock...but oh well... Jan 3, 2005
M. Morley
Sacramento, CA
 
M. Morley   Sacramento, CA  
 
Good route! 1.5 stars. The bottom is a little loose, but will clean up nicely after a few more ascents. This is approx. 150' long. Mar 24, 2004