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On p4 of BAD. Yellow shows p4, red shows the end of p3. Photo courtesy of Jeff Ranish. Also posted for Say When approach.
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tree stem
Another angle looking up at p1
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Jon Nelson
Jul 18, 2022
“On p4 of BAD. Yellow shows p4, red shows the end of p3. Photo courtesy of Jeff Ranish. Also posted for Say When approach.”  

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Handline to base of The Velvet Pedestal / Say When. For Say When, you climb P1 of The Velvet Pedestal and then Say When starts.
Left most side of Lookout Point. Velvet Pedestal (orange), Say When (yellow), And Say (light blue), Burt's Alpine Dirtbus (magenta), Alpinist's Secret Handjam (dark blue), Golden Age of Ballooning (green).
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Pitch 2, to the top.
p1 Say When
Looking down near the end of P1 of Say When. Protects really well! After this layback section, you step left on easier blocky terrain to the anchor.
p2 Say When
p2 layback
tree stem
On p4 of BAD. Yellow shows p4, red shows the end of p3. Photo courtesy of Jeff Ranish. Also posted for Say When approach.
Another angle looking up at p1
Bottom of p2 Say When, Sean in lead. Anchors in foreground are yours. Anchors in far left (background) are distorted due to wide angle -- they are for p3 Velvet Pedestal and easy to get to. Photog credit Stephen Packard

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