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Backcountry.com not playing nice

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Tim N · · Denver, CO · Joined Nov 2012 · Points: 20

While this behavior is certainly not unique in American business, nor is it new to the outdoor industry (I've heard of similar antics by other large SLC based climbing gear companies), I was disappointed to hear that the gear retailer backcountry dot com has sued many small companies with the word "Backcountry" in their names. Companies include Backcountry Jeans, Marquette Backcountry, and, most egregiously in my opinion, Backcountry Babes (I mean, c'mon, who in the outdoor industry sues a women's backcountry skiing education group?).

Links:
https://coloradosun.com/2019/10/31/backcountry-com-sues-anyone-who-uses-its-namesake-is-it-bullying-or-just-business/
https://www.kunr.org/post/backcountrycom-sues-protect-backcountry-trademark#stream/0
http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pnam=Backcountry.com,%20LLC%20%20&page=1
https://wintrymix.podbean.com/ - Podcast with the owner of Marquette Backcountry

Now, I'm usually the last one to jump on a boycott bandwagon, but I have to say that I can't find it in me to support backcountry dot com. I've let them know that. I hope that the outdoor community would agree that to try to trademark all uses of the word "Backcountry" sounds excessive.

Thoughts? (If I know MP, there will be some...)

5.Seven Kevin · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined Mar 2016 · Points: 0

Do they take Indigenous people climbing?
Do they sell to all races?
Do they sell everything in a "womens" version?
Do they make their stuff in china?
Do they close on SUNDAY!?!?!

Now I have to check if the oppressive corporations I loathe and #hashtagboycott but pour half my paycheck into anyway have SUED SOMEONE!?!

I can't keep up in 2019

Tim Stich · · Colorado Springs, Colorado · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 1,482

It was with extreme pleasure that I messaged them and told them to go fuck themselves.

City Dweller · · New York, NY · Joined Oct 2015 · Points: 10
5.Seven Kevin wrote:
I can't keep up in 2019

bruh ... you never could ;)

curt86iroc · · Lakewood, CO · Joined Dec 2014 · Points: 74

Thanks for posting this info. This all seems shitty, especially suing an outdoor education group. That really grinds my gears...

Stiles · · the Mountains · Joined May 2003 · Points: 840

Who stands up for the proper wild Backcountry, and sues backcountry.com?  I mean, free money, right?  I can buy a shit-ton off shiny totems and a specific outer-shell for every day of the month with free money.

I reckon the actual Backcountry would spend its money picking up trash and cleaning up behind surface-shitters

M Sprague · · New England · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 5,059

They've lost my business. F them. Thanks for letting us know.

Alex Fedorov · · New York City · Joined Nov 2018 · Points: 0

That is really disappointing! Yes - that is enough for me to shape elsewhere ... 

gtluke · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2012 · Points: 1

Ford lost the names of some iconic cars (gt40, futura, cobra?) because they weren't activity trying to stop other businesses from using the name. Once they lost like all their cases they started going after companies using their names.
Understandable.
The word Backcountry seems like a name so ubiquitous that I'm surprised that this is working.

Robert S · · Driftwood, TX · Joined Sep 2018 · Points: 391

I won't buy from them again and will let them know as well (and spread the word). That's real bush-league shit.

Here's hoping that backcountrygear.com fights this and wins.

Very bad PR move. I wonder what overpaid idiot thought this would be a good idea. They will not gain a single customer through this, but they will lose some.

Paul L · · Portland, OR · Joined Dec 2016 · Points: 225

Don't forget Steep & Cheap is also theirs. 

Doug Lintz · · Kearney, NE · Joined Apr 2004 · Points: 1,155
Tim Stich wrote: It was with extreme pleasure that I messaged them and told them to go fuck themselves.

Right on.  While browsing their site, Jaclyn popped up and asked how she could help.  I told her to tell her bosses to quit being a bunch of dickheads.

Mikey Wally · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2014 · Points: 8,136

fuck 'em, i'm not buying from them or BD.

Mikey Wally · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2014 · Points: 8,136

holy crap check out this!

three pages of lawsuits, am i seeing this right?

http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pnam=Backcountry.com,%20LLC%20%20&page=1

they've been doing this since 2016.

i bet almost every single company we buy from is like this.

Max Supertramp · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 65

It's almost like all of us are responsible for some kind of corporatization of the outdoor gearscape.   Almost.  Meh.  So Creeksgiving (TM) y'all?

Mikey Wally · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2014 · Points: 8,136

where's the list of REI lawsuits? BAN MP!

TaylorP · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2016 · Points: 0

They are pretty much forced to do this to maintain the trademark on their name. But I'm not a lawyer so...

Christian Hesch · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 12

Generally not a fan of cancel culture, but this seems a rather clear cut case where it's perfectly acceptable to boycott them. I prefer to engage in "buycotts," rather than boycotts, but I think both might be appropriate in this case. Looked into those jeans but I'm afraid I'll just have to offer them moral support, at $160/pair, haha. I'll certainly be happy to order more often from backcountrygear in the future.

Old lady H · · Boise, ID · Joined Aug 2015 · Points: 1,094

Our great little gear store in Boise became Boise Gear Collective, from Backcountry Pursuit. Add that to your list of small businesses.

EDIT to add: Ah! They're on page two.

Max Supertramp · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 65

They've already got a form response to folks wanting to discuss the issue in their live sell, sell sell SELL chat.  

Hilarious.

Dan 60D5H411 · · Colorado Springs, CO · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 2,132
Mikey Wally wrote: where's the list of REI lawsuits? BAN MP!

Show me the list of businesses they have sued for using Recreational or Equipment or Incorporated, and I'll support the ban.  Until then, Backcountry deserves every ounce of bad publicity for suing legitimate businesses over a term they appropriated in the first place.  

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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