Type: Sport, 30 ft
FA: Ralph Schmidt
Page Views: 239 total · 2/month
Shared By: computerskillclimbing. on Apr 10, 2010
Admins: Doug Hemken, James Schroeder, chris tregge

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This is the left-hand route on the block that follows three bolts to rusty chains. The climb is quite dirty (usually), but a fun (and potentially exhilarating...) fight up a sloping arrette.


This is 15 feet to the left of Late Night Chalk Show. Either lower off of the chains or untie and walk down the back side.


3 bolts.


I hated this thing. It started good enough and then seemed bolted too far right for behind the arete to be in play, which made it hard. I wound up grabbing the tree at the top just to get it over with.

Could also be a crazy hard crimp fest straight up the face. Apr 19, 2010
Andrew R.
Linden, VA
Andrew R.   Linden, VA
Yes Rhoads this route totally sucks. Jun 3, 2010
Known as "Climb with a View" in Ryan's guidebook but the description is "A short gear lead using the face and thin crack system in an obtuse dihedral". The pic in the guide shoes this climb but A. Now it has bolts B. What dihedral? C. Guide says 5.8. WTF? Jun 29, 2010
I think this is actually "Ponyboy" a 5.12- bolted by Ralph Schmidt. Mislabeled in Ryan's guidebook.

5.12- might explain the the sandbagging :)

Please change the name. Jul 1, 2010
Corey Morris
Landstuhl, Germany
Corey Morris   Landstuhl, Germany
Probably "quite dirty" and hard to clip bolts because people are not following the "intended line" on this 30 ft. block. Aug 1, 2010
What is the intended line? BTW, this rating still needs to be changed. Aug 1, 2010
Corey Morris
Landstuhl, Germany
Corey Morris   Landstuhl, Germany
Crazy hard crimp fest straight up the face sounds about right...another Ralph classic...that dude is 6'4" with a positive ape index so your probably looking at 5.12 with 5.13 clips... Aug 2, 2010
This seemed to be bolted as a face climb. This would make the climb nails hard (12- would be a huge sandbag IMO). The face is wicked thin, especially between the 2nd and 3rd bolts, assuming you step right at the rest below the 2nd bolt and follow the edge system in the center of the wall. However, the rock quality on the face is quite solid. It would be interesting to see someone try the direct route. I tried for a bit at the end of the day but made little headway in reaching the 3rd bolt. There are plenty of hold options but they're all incredibly thin. Aug 8, 2016