Posting gym routes.

I was browsing the site yesterday, and I came across the Indoor Walls section of Colorado. I began checking them out, and I ran across something that I found to be quite silly. Under the Glenwood Springs Rec Center there have been numerous plastic routes posted. I couldn't help from laughing. Mountain Project is an extremely informative website, and it is sweet that people are psyched about their gym, but I found this over the top. Within 30 minutes of Glenwood, there is amazing climbing that is accessible all year round.

Anyone agree or disagree.

Tobin

agree.

BirminghamBen wrote:agree.

+1

Is this really any different than an ice park?

HA!

+10 for "The Black One" being listed as a 'Classic' at the BRC :)

mountainproject.com/v/color…

Funny!

I fully support the Glenwood Springs climbing community in this effort.

THIS IS SO FRUSTRATING!!!

I've been working for months and months on a guide book for indoor routes. It was gonna be so cool with great color photos, information about the first ascensionist, whether a route is sport or trad, the number of bolts, and history about each route. But, no one is going to buy my book if they can find that info online.

On one hand, it is kind of silly.

On the other hand, this gym has natural cracks and features that are permanent and allow you to climb the wall without any of the bolt-on holds at a grade that will never change (unless the wall is destroyed or updated).

The ?Erie Community Center? has the same kind of wall and the "no-bolt hold" routes could be added there, but I chose not to when I submitted the area. I don't see what's wrong with having the routes submitted, they won't change and you'll never see them in searches or whatnot unless you are specifically looking for indoor climbing.

Absolutely ridiculous.

I remember going to the new Movement gym's website (here in boulder) a couple months ago, they had a feature where you could search what routes were posted at any given time in the gym, and people were putting in ticks like you would on MP. "Redpointed, August 7th", "Onsighted", etc. This reminded me of it, thought it was kind of amusing too. :)

My understanding is that the routes are permanent and will not be changing in the near future. I thought it was a little silly at first too, but after getting some further information about how the routes are set up I think its fine.

Micah Isaac wrote: +1

+2

Beached Nuts wrote:I got the FA of the crack at the south Rockn' and Jamn'. It's an area classic.

That bitch is hard.

Chris Plesko wrote: That bitch is hard.

That bitch is the definition of greasy!

This is kinda like bolted cracks in that if you don't like the bolts......don't clip them. Except for the fact that nobody should really care about the infinite ammount of information on-line, vs the limited and almost sacred nature of real rock. So I am for it, not only for the routes that don't change, but for the temporary ones that have interest for anyone. Who knows, someone could learn a new technique by being able to talk about them on-line.

Beached Nuts:

Was that a lead or just a toprope? Did you place gear or was it sport?
Was it a pinkpoint or did you clip? Chalk? Shoes? Kinky outfit or....?

It is probably a good thing as with the increased traffic on the routes (now that they are posted) the choss and loose stuff should disappear. Gyms will now be safer all across the country. Plus people can now tick off "the blue route" at gym "X".

Geir Hundal wrote:(images)

Geir, as the FAist I object. I don't mind people posting the general location of that particular tower, but detailed topos like the one you produced will only encourage traffic to that climb! Whatever happened to keeping things local? Now I'm going to have to deal with throngs of people lining up at the base of that route and interfering with my after-work sesh.

Besides, someone might even free it and then get all the glory. That route is red-tagged, beatches!

Mark Cushman wrote: Geir, as the FAist I object. I don't mind people posting the general location of that particular tower, but detailed topos like the one you produced will only encourage traffic to that climb! Whatever happened to keeping things local? Now I'm going to have to deal with throngs of people lining up at the base of that route and interfering with my after-work sesh. Besides, someone might even free it and then get all the glory. That route is red-tagged, beatches!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

Mark you're hilarious. :)

What?

I nearly vomited in my mouth when kids started posting sit starts to Gill problems, but his hilarious!!!

Perhaps the Glenwood gym could start a "www.gymproject.com" I support their community effort, but I agree that a Kapu (taboo) system is healthy for all communities. Besides this forum being a hoot bluff (I especially love crag dwellers sorrows), I hope something is taken away from this. I look forward to seeing gymproject.com evolve