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Crying Time Again 

YDS: 5.9+ French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: E1 5a

   
Type:  Trad, 4 pitches
Consensus:  YDS: 5.9+ French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: E1 5a [details]
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Submitted By: bbrock on Feb 24, 2007

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Description 

Awesome moderate knob pulling. Even though this climb has bolts I would not consider it a sport climb. The bolts can be almost impossible to see at times even if they are five feet in front of you. The last pitch has several different options. 5.9 R or 10a safely bolted.

Location 

This route starts to the left of The Northwest Face route. Walk off the top slab and back around

Protection 

Light rack, quick draws, and runners


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Final pitch
Final pitch
Walking off the slab sea
Walking off the slab sea
Starting pitch 2
Starting pitch 2
Danny Tesfai steps up to the plate for the last pitch
Danny Tesfai steps up to the plate for the last pi...
If there's gonna be any Cryin', then a momma is handy to have along.  The second bolt is between her hands. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />
BETA PHOTO: If there's gonna be any Cryin', then a momma is ha...
The last pitch. Bolted 10a
The last pitch. Bolted 10a
Fourth pitch (not as steep as this angle implies)
Fourth pitch (not as steep as this angle implies)
The top out is second (only) to Third Pillar
The top out is second (only) to Third Pillar
Sascha Madrid leading the 3rd pitch on Crying Time Again
Sascha Madrid leading the 3rd pitch on Crying Time...
Start of the third pitch
Start of the third pitch
2 unknown climbers on Crying Time Again
2 unknown climbers on Crying Time Again
The opening slab. <br /> <br />July 2010
The opening slab.

July 2010
Matt and Adam on Crying time again
Matt and Adam on Crying time again
Looking back down at Karsten and the unexpected conga line that is forming behind us...while Direct Northwest appears almost empty next door.  What!!
Looking back down at Karsten and the unexpected co...
pitch 3 i think <br />
pitch 3 i think
Watching this Czech climbing the final pitch was breathtaking.
Watching this Czech climbing the final pitch was b...
coming up the second pitch <br />
coming up the second pitch
Climber on the last pitch of crying time again
Climber on the last pitch of crying time again
nearly there
nearly there

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By Scotty Nelson
From: Boulder
Jul 23, 2007

As of 7/21/07, I think somebody pinched the rap ring from the bolts at the top. I left a biner to make the rope pull easier, but that might get pinched too. Would suggest somebody replacing this with a big rap ring.
By Anthony Stout
Administrator
From: Albuquerque, NM
Sep 12, 2007

Several pitches can be linked with a 60 meter rope. We did this climb in three long pitches, although I would not at all recommend this! The first and second pitches were easy links. The third and fourth, it really sucked! REALLY BAD ROPE DRAG! The fifth and sixth were good to link up (we did the 10a variation). So if you want to link pitches, I would recommend doing it in four pitches rather than three (1 and 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6).
By Jonathan Howland
Jun 28, 2008

A Crying Time rack: one red C3, one blue TCU, one green C4 and a red or yellow C4 (for the anchor below the 5.9 knobs pitch), 6 draws, 6 slings with two biners on each.
To avoid rope drag (with a 60m rope): link P1 & P2, belaying at two bolts just below and right of the first 5.9 move; belay again on the large ledge below the 5.9 knobs pitch (anchor with Camalots) - a short 70' pitch; then 3 more pitches to the top, each belay at a two bolt anchor.
By Andy Laakmann
Site Landlord
From: Bend, OR
Jul 20, 2009
rating: 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a PG13

Fabulous face climbing. A must do.

We linked as Anthony describes (1 and 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6) and it worked perfectly.

The only true runout move on the climb is the 5.7 mantle after the crux on P2. A fall from there would be bad. The rest of the route was very well protected.

Bring a light rack - nuts and one set of small to #2 camalot. Most, if not all, the gear is placed on P1/P2. All anchors are fixed if you link as described.
By Cory
From: Boise, ID
Sep 7, 2009
rating: 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a PG13

This climb is fantastic. Every pitch was fun to climb. We did the Cry Baby variation to the 1st pitch, which was fun climbing with enough distance between bolts to get your attention. The mantel move on the third (second for us) pitch isn't that bad. The tricky moves are actually before the mantel when you're still fairly close to the bolt. The last "10a" pitch felt pretty soft for .10a, it's bolted like a gym climb and you basically follow a series of large positive edges up a steep wall.
By Dustin B
From: Steamboat
Sep 24, 2009
rating: 5.10- 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a

Great route. There was a conga line up the direct route and my partner and I climbed this as a backup. Turned out to be a blessing. We had the route to ourselves. Much more asthetic line than the direct and the climbing was excellent. Guess that pesky 'R' letter in supertaco kinda keeps the crowds away. Also, we linked the pitches as 1,2&3,4,5&6. Went nice and smooth, not much drag.
By Andy Laakmann
Site Landlord
From: Bend, OR
Jul 15, 2010
rating: 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a PG13

Linking 2/3 and 4/5 definitely the way to go.
By Aerili
From: Salt Lake City, UT
Jul 19, 2010

While linking the 5th and 6th pitches (10a variation), I never did notice a belay station between them anyway.

All run-outs are on relatively easy terrain; this route is well bolted by Tuolumne standards. Eight draws are just enough to link the last two pitches together, but you will have nothing left for the anchor, so bring additional slingage.

A good route, but I still found Direct Northwest better.
By 213blc
From: THA WEST COAST
Aug 5, 2010
rating: 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a

glorious climb! Just need three cams, green C4 for the flake zone on P4, green C3, and yellow or red C3 for the belay. Went to second belay via Cry Baby, a fun way to get your head screwed on right and some fun knobby moves in a sea of stone. Final pitch is tons of fun.
By Dan Lautzenheiser
From: Las Vegas, NV
Oct 5, 2011
rating: 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a R

RP's or tiny cams can make the runout(s) on the 2.5/3rd pitch less scary.
By Shawn Heath
Administrator
From: Forchheim, Germany
Oct 1, 2012

Each route description on Mountain Project needs to answer 3 primary questions: Where is it? What is the run of the route? (best answered with a Beta picture or Topo) and What do I need to protect it? This route description only answers the last question (kind of, the comments are really where the answer comes from) and as a result I wasn't able to do the climb while I was there because I couldn't find it nor did I know how the route went. There are lots of pictures of people in this route but no one has posted a single Beta photo!
By CrimperE6
From: ca
Oct 19, 2012

pointless wandering line! and badly bolted.. probably the hype didnt help
By Erik Gearhart
From: Seattle, WA
Aug 19, 2013

This route can be quite scary, actually. Of course the first pitch is run out slab, but even the last pitch or two, I remember, are rather gripping.