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Carter Classic 

YDS: 5.9 French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: HVS 5a

   
Type:  Trad, 5 pitches, 500', Grade II
Consensus:  YDS: 5.9 French: 5c Ewbanks: 17 UIAA: VI ZA: 17 British: HVS 5a [details]
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Submitted By: Stephen Nance on Aug 29, 2006

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BETA PHOTO: Carter Classic route.

Description 

Start right in the center of the face, up a prominent crack feature.

P1: Climb long 5.6 to bolted belay, stay in dihedral.

P2: Crux pitch, traverse right from the belay, take a short steep crack with sometimes fixed pro, then move left to pull the small roof/bulge (5.9). then continue on an easy 5.7+ finger crack to an uncomfortable bolted belay.

  • *It is possible to stagy with the finger crack on the right and continue straight up. THis option is also good, but I did not believe it was as fun as the route proper. staying to the right however allows you to skip a pitch and you will end up at the top of pitch 3 on a nice ledge.

P3: Ascend a short 5.8 chimney, come out to the right to another nice bolted belay.

P4: This is the mental crux pitch. It is short and it is hard to find "the" hold, 5.8+. Go up the dihedral, then break out right to face climbing, a #2 Camalot in a horizontal slot is key. You may brave to go at most 8-10 ft. with out protection on this short pitch.

P5: traverse no pro 5.4 to a dihedral left, then continue up lie back 5.7+ dihedral to another outstanding belay.

From here, it's route finding from the top, nothing harder than 5.8 whichever way you go.

Location 

You can rap down or walk off.... Rapping, I found to be easier, just make sure to always look at Mt. [Princeton], 'cause what ever is on the top of it, is heading your way! To get up to the climb, it's a faint, if any, climbers' trail.

Protection 

Bring mid sizes up to size 3, double on 0.75 helps. Bring smalls though (Aliens!!), really, just a normal rack up to 3 inches.


Photos of Carter Classic Slideshow Add Photo
Marty following 2nd pitch of HC on Davis Face. June 15, 2009.
Marty following 2nd pitch of HC on Davis Face. Jun...
Fury just above the traverse on P5.
Fury just above the traverse on P5.
Past the crux roof on pitch 2.
Past the crux roof on pitch 2.
Starting up the first pitch.
Starting up the first pitch.
Kevin on pitch 3.
Kevin on pitch 3.
Ben heading up the start of pitch 4.
Ben heading up the start of pitch 4.
Chels coming up pitch 1 - looks steeper in this photo than it actually is.
Chels coming up pitch 1 - looks steeper in this ph...
My brother Patrick on the 4th belay station on Davis Face.
My brother Patrick on the 4th belay station on Dav...
D's Nutz at the top of P1.
D's Nutz at the top of P1.
Rapping the pitch 1 anchors to the ground.
Rapping the pitch 1 anchors to the ground.
Me and my buds below Davis Face after geting rained off the 3rd pitch.
Me and my buds below Davis Face after geting raine...
Bill pulling out of the super fun and all-too-short dihedral on P5.
Bill pulling out of the super fun and all-too-shor...
Ben cruising pitch 1.
Ben cruising pitch 1.
Marty first pitch of HC on Davis Face. June 15, 2009.
Marty first pitch of HC on Davis Face. June 15, 20...
Tree at top of P6.
Tree at top of P6.

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By Bowe Ellis
From: Taos, NM
Jun 17, 2008
rating: 5.8+ 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c

This is a great route unlike most other Buena Vista climbs. It has more of an alpine feel and the granite has small crystals and many featured holds.

There are six belay stations. Pitch 1 is long and probably can't be linked. Pitches 2-5 are all very short - generally 40 to 80ft each. Pitch 6 is longer, probably 130-150ft. We linked P2-P3 with some rope drag due to the roof. The true P2 line appears to go left through the roof, but a right variation is also possible.

P1 is easy & fun with a short crux at the top, probably 5.6.

P2/P3 go back right from the belay into the dihedral, go straight up and do a lieback move to gain a bucket right in the roof. From here do some hand traversing left or right to pull the roof. Neither route can be seen from below the crux lieback so there's a little bit of faith here. We went right, passed a fixed pin, and led up an intermittent finger crack (good pro). Maybe 5.8+ but airy and committing. The left option looks great and possibly easier: grab big chickenheads and work up and left into a left facing dihedral with a fixed pin and good pro. The right variation lends well to linking P2 & P3 but it's still possible to traverse back left to the intermediate belay.

P4 goes into a chimney that turns into a shallow groove with no pro for about 8-10ft. Delicate and certainly cruxy 5.8.

P5 easy friction traverse left with no pro for 25ft. 5.4 or so. Go up into a beautiful lieback right facing dihedral with splitter (5.7).

P6 has many options following weaknesses. Our line felt like 5.6.

On our rap we used the tree with lots of slings, the P4 station, and the P1 station to make 3 raps.

What a great line!
By Lee Jenkins
From: Buena Vista, Colorado
Jun 22, 2008
rating: 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a

Hey Bowe,

Glad you liked it. The normal P2 crux is pulling the roof right. Also, P2-3 as indicated in your Topo are almost always linked and P6 is rarely done, and when it is then you can walk of left (cliff facing) and down a gully.
By GregParker
From: Denver, CO
Jul 5, 2008

Pretty good climbing with great exposure. It was fun to do and I would definitely recommend it but I don't feel the need to go back due to the logistics. It is a long drive (need high clearance) and a hard 30 minute hike so it turns into a full day.

I definitely wouldn't do pitch 6. Isn't very fun and it doesn't feel like you are at the top more so than pitch 5. Also, aside from pitch 1 it is the only pitch you need 2 ropes to rappel. Therefore if you skip it you can leave your second rope at the first belay ledge after the first pitch.

Pitches 2-5 are very short. I would definitely combine 2 and 3 to skip the uncomfortable belay. You can't combine 4 and 5 due to rope drag on the traverse.

You can however rap 4 and 5 together with a 60 meter rope. **Be careful to find the exact middle and to tie knots at the end of the rope because you just barely make it to the belay ledge for pitch 4.** From here you have to rap pitch 2 and 3 separate if you only have 1 rope. Then tie your ropes together and rap the first pitch down to the ground. This method is 4 rappels but we only needed to carry 1 rope past the first pitch.

Hope that all made sense and enjoy the climb!
By Dean Cool
From: Boulder, CO
Jul 29, 2008

I recommend this climb to all. Although the climbing was easy it made you use different techniques. The roof at P2 was probably the hardest move and a bit balancy. I also think pitch 6 was a blast. Protection is scattered and long runners are encouraged. It would have been nice to leave our extra rope at the top of P1, but glad we hauled it to the top!
By Will Lewis
From: Leadville, CO
Sep 6, 2008

This route can be done in 3 pitches pretty easily. Link the 1st two, link the second two, and one rope stretcher to the tree at the top. Three double rope rappels.
By abd
Sep 8, 2008

We climbed the Classic route today combining pitches 2 and 3 (went left at roof),then 4 and 5 (long runners after the traverse). For the 6th pitch we angled up right and found some fun 5.8 puzzles to solve. Great route!
There is a mixed route starting 50' to climbers' left of Carters Classic. It looks fairly new. would be great to get more info about it. We only had time for the first pitch today. it was 150', a little bit PG for pro, 5.9ish, fun...
By Chris M.
May 18, 2009

If you use 2 x 60m ropes, you can rap from the 5th belay station to the first, and then make another rap to the ground. (2 double rope raps to the ground). The first of these raps is right to the ends of the ropes so make sure that they are 60m and make sure you have knots in the ends!
Also, as you you pull the roof of pitch two, to the right, watch for a pin (I missed it and had to settle for two lobes of a blue Alien...ugh).
By Jordan Winters
From: Minturn, CO
Jun 16, 2009

Fun route! Linked pitches 2-3, but should have linked 2-4 as there would have been plenty of rope and it would have saved some time at the belays. Went right at roof on pitch two and up the finger crack with a couple crux moves...didn't see any pin on this variation...
Also, tried to link 5-6 all the way up to the rap tree but came up 8 feet short on a 60m rope! Bummer! Had to build an anchor 8 feet below tree...I'd read you can link those two pitches but it must be with a 70m rope.
Super fun route on quality granite - highly reccomended.
By Jason Halladay
Administrator
From: Los Alamos, NM
Jul 5, 2009
rating: 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c

Fun, moderate route on great rock. The moves are varied and the more difficult sections (I believe there are two--the roof on P2 and 12 feet above the belay on P3) are very well protected. The pin protecting the moves to the right of the roof on P2 is still there, just hard to see behind a small flake.
With a 70m rope we linked P2,P3 and P4. I believe you could link P2,P3,P4 with a 60m rope too--just be diligent with your rope work to avoid drag. P4 and P5 are very short.
We also linked P5 and P6 with our 70m rope.

Also, there are no cables connecting any of the bolts at any of the belays.
By Steven Reneau
Jul 5, 2011

About 8 ft right of the rappel tree, currently with good slings, is a pair of bolted rap anchors, slightly hidden from view. Would make a more direct line to the p4 anchors.
By S.Mckinna
From: Durango, CO
Aug 11, 2014

You can definitely link pitches 2, 3, & 4 with a 60m rope going either way at the crux roof on pitch 2 if ya bring enough gear.