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Second Thoughts

Name: Second Thoughts
Rating: 2.5

5.7+ YDS 5a French 15 Ewbanks V+ UIAA 13 ZA MVS 4b British

Routes in Top Rope

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	Alice's Corner TR 5.5 4b 13 IV+ 11 MS 4a
	Almost Worthwhile TR 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
	Asinine Behavior TR 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b
	Astral Projection TR 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c
	Beginner's Corner TR 5.5 4b 13 IV+ 11 MS 4a
	Big e TR 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
	Bingo Wings TR 5.12- 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
	Black Buttress TR 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a
	Blowout TR 5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a
	Blue Suede Shoes TR 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b
	Brachiator TR 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
	Building Blocks TR 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
	Century Club TR 5.10b/c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b
	Clean and Jerk TR 5.12 7b+ 27 VIII+ 26 E6 6b
	Cling On TR 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
	Cold Turkey TR 5.10a/b 6a+ 19 VI+ 19 E2 5b
	Conscientious Objection TR 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b
	Contrived TR 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
	Cowabunga TR 5.11- 6c 22 VIII- 22 E3 5c
	Delusions TR 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
	Desperado TR 5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a
	Despondency TR 5.11c 6c+ 24 VIII- 24 E4 6a
	Despondency Right TR 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b
	Digititus aka Kinesis TR 5.11- 6c 22 VIII- 22 E3 5c
	Disintigration TR 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
	Doug's Roof TR 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b
	Enigma TR 5.13a 7c+ 29 IX+ 29 E6 6c
	Extension TR 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b
	Fat Chance TR 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
	Finesse TR 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b V2 5+
	Frank's Climb TR 5.13a/b 8a 29 IX+ 29 E7 6c
	Impasse TR 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
	Inappropriate Behavior TR 5.12- 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
	Intergalactic Quaalude Trip TR 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b
	Intimidator TR 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c
	Karen's Direct TR 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
	Karen's Overhang TR 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
	Karen's Super Direct TR 5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a
	Keep on Truckin' TR 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c
	Let Me Go Wild TR 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
	Ludwig's Dude TR 5.10b 6a+ 19 VII- 19 E2 5b
	Material Implications TR 5.5 4b 13 IV+ 11 MS 4a
	Mental Blocks TR 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
	MLF TR 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
	Mossy Gully TR 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b
	Myalgia TR 5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a
	Myasthenia gravis (AKA Up Yours) TR 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c
	No Soap TR 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
	Nose, The TR 5.4 4a 12 IV 10 VD 3c
	Not Another Day in Toledo TR 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
	One For the Road AKA One Last Time TR 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
	One Story Town TR 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c
	Out of Control TR 5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a
	Peek-a-boo TR 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
	Pigeon Shit TR 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
	Poison Ivy Jam TR 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b
	Potato Chips TR 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
	Precious Little TR 5.11+ 7a 24 VIII 24 E4 6a
	Pretzel, The TR 5.9+ 5c 17 VI 17 E1 5a
	Ragged Edge TR 5.12 7b+ 27 VIII+ 26 E6 6b
	Rated X TR 5.11a 6c 22 VII+ 22 E3 5c
	Reflections TR 5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c
	Resistance, The TR 5.13c 8a+ 30 X- 31 E7 7a
	Rocket Man TR 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b
	Romp, The TR 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b
	Root Route TR 5.5 4b 13 IV+ 11 MS 4a
	Schism TR 5.6 4c 14 V 12 S 4b
	Second Thoughts TR 5.7+ 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
	Slapstick Routine aka Hollywood TR 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
	Slim Chance TR 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
	Staircase TR 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
	Steppin' Out TR 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
	Steppin' Over TR 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c
	Stretch Marks TR 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c
	Technical Difficulties TR 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
	Terrarium TR 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
	Three Mules TR 5.7 5a 15 V+ 13 MVS 4b
	Trick, The TR 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c
	Ultimate Bushwack TR 5.5 4b 13 IV+ 11 MS 4a
	Victim of Circumstance TR 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c
	Walk On By TR 5.11b 6c 23 VIII- 23 E3 5c

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Type:	TR, 20 ft (6 m)
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Shared By:	John Paul Weener on Aug 30, 2020 · Updates
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Start on Dougs Roof and climb up to the chocolate chip "cookie hold", avoid climbing the roof section all together and instead hand traverse to the flat ledge to the left, once you reach the corner with a nice positive hold then mantle ontop of that section of rock. Second Thoughts ends once you mantle the traverse ledge but if you continue up on Jay's Overhang and Dougs Roof this wont result in a bad rope swing for you and the rock.