Type: Sport, 110 ft
FA: Steve Orthel, Neil Ofstun, Mike Stewart, Frank Orthel
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Shared By: Jeff Mekolites on Mar 27, 2007 with improvements by Raphael Guzman
Admins: Aaron Parlier, Steve Lineberry

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Climb a slabby corner beneath a bulge. Pull the bulge (crux) and continue up balancy moves to the top.


Drivin' and Cryin' starts down and left from the ledge where Bear Hunt is located.


Bolts. Shares tree anchor at the top.


Great route. 2 cruxes in my opinion, depending on how straight you follow the bolt line. The crux following the lower bulge crux felt harder than 10a... more like a solid .10.

If you run this to the top and anchor off of the Bear Hunt/Cub tree, you can rap or lower off of a single 70m rope back to where you started from.

The top has about 20 foot runouts on 5.7ish climbing. I brought a set of Mastercams from 0-6 and was happy that I did. Aug 14, 2010
John Saunders
Cornelius, NC
John Saunders   Cornelius, NC
I agree that the lower crux is tough. I'd top-roped this a couple of times before giving it a shot on lead. I placed 1 piece actually below the bulge at the bottom and just clipped bolts the rest of the way to the top. It is a little run out at the top but great fun! Feb 1, 2011
Love this climb. Can get in a 0.4 or 0.5 camalot before the first bolt. Mar 6, 2011
Scott Gilliam
Raleigh, NC
Scott Gilliam   Raleigh, NC
The lower crux, passing the 1st bolt, goes to the left or right. I like passing to the right, and for the second, passing to the right is a far safer choice. Less barrel-rolling across the face in the case of a fall. Dec 28, 2014
Andy Lei
New York, NY
Andy Lei   New York, NY
60m isn't enough to top rope or rappel this, so if you don't have a 70m, your partner should follow you and then you can rap off the bear cub anchor to the right. Nov 24, 2015
Brian Abram
Celo, NC
  5.10 PG13
Brian Abram   Celo, NC
  5.10 PG13
Led this today for the first time in years. What the shit, NC? 6 bolts in 110’. Getting past bolt one is solid 5.10. There’s another crimpy 5.10 move a bit higher. Yes, the hardest moves have bolts at them, but some of the feet have gotten pretty polished over the years, and folks should know you’re gonna be pulling somewhat insecure 5.8 moves high above bolts on this. Slip while approaching a bolt, and you might tumble 40' on dangerously low angle terrain. PG-13/R for anyone breaking into 5.10 Nov 24, 2017
Michael Johnston
Charlotte, NC
Michael Johnston   Charlotte, NC
Got sandbagged by a local on this one haha. Great route! Solid 5.10 as others have said, and runout. Totally safe though, for anyone comfortable at the grade, and a great mental journey. Jan 25, 2019
Curtis Baird
Johnson City, TN
Curtis Baird   Johnson City, TN
I felt that the route was pretty safe. Got in a solid 0.5 below the first bolt. Both cruxes are well protected by the bolts. There is some runout at the top but I found it to be mild terrain. Jan 27, 2019