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Dog tags
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Yeah you heard me right - I want more DOG TAGS to indicate routes - also literally any other indication such as route names on wood signs or I've even seen rocks painted with route names but I am so sick of having to load my pictures on mountain project to play the matching game and/or not have a clue because some routes straight up just don't have pictures and will just be like "start on the wall". I think a 90¢ dog tag or otherwise small aluminum plate with the route engraved would be a godsend. I've only ever seen it done in Muir Valley RRG, but I wish it was done everywhere (particularly sport climbs) |
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Ik guidebooks exist but even they aren't ever going to be the MOST up-to-date |
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Easy solution to the problem: I only climb the routes that god himself shines a line down upon. Turns out God loves choss. 0/10 |
Jared Kohli wrote: I can’t get past the ninety euros part… |
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You mount 'em... I'll scrape 'em... |
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I did enjoy painted names in france, makes it easier to find things when it's just a giant grey wall, same thing with EPC. Plaques in the creek are super special as well but I think more of a function of the rock there, and the fact that it's only visited by climbers. I would be totally down to see the dog tag practice in more places but I think it's one of those things where it is easy to implement when there are few routes so it becomes the norm, harder once the area is already developed without them. |
phylp phylp wrote: I spent a solid 40 seconds looking for the ¢ I can't believe I missed it |
phylp phylp wrote: I don't always climb labeled routes, but when I do... they better darn well have Solid Gold Tags on them!!! |
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Isn’t there a VR climbing simulator for people that want stupid shit like this? |
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Most all climbing gym routes have tags, sounds like you should spend your time there. Many even have tags that can be scanned for route beta. |
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Isn’t one of the main ideas of climbing to be challenged and find a way, oh wait I forgot what year I am in. Guide books are one thing but dog tags are indoor stuff only. I agree with apogee, they go up scrape them off. |
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They’re certainly not the most LNT option, but I’ve liked them at the crags I’ve visited where they’re common (The Red, Massacre Rocks) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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I think it only makes sense for very specific spots. Here in the wasatch it's usually pretty easy to figure out where a route is based on local features. "The big arete just south of the creek" etc. But in the Creek where there are literally dozens and dozens of potential lines all along a single cliff, yeah the plaques make sense. Plus there's so many sandstone plates at the base of the cliff you don't have to deface anything more permanent than what you could literally take home to your backyard if you didn't want to leave it there |
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The people who dislike route markers still use them. They’re the libertarians of route finding. Even if every route doesn’t have a tag or plaque, having a few makes it so much better to get oriented in your book or on the proj. |
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I think this a cool tradition somewhere like the creek, but I don't think it should be started in places where there's not historical precedent already. And why is a guidebook not good enough? (I don't buy the excuse that it's not updated, that's what mountain project is for) |
highaltitudeflatulentexpulsion wrote: Yeah I don't need every single route marked, I hope it didn't read that way - but at least 1 or two on a wall would be nice. Here in RRG we put up an insane amount of routes every year, effectively making the guidebooks out-of-date within a month of buying it. They also tend to retro add some routes between existing lines -some of which not even on MP, so you can get really turned around when there is a mystery line or two that aren't labeled anywhere book or MP, and confuses everyone. I've climbed quite a few routes where I just tick "the route not on MP to the left of this one" or whatever. I think a few key labels really helps you get your bearings, especially in places like Red Rocks where you are completely fucking lost looking for lines |
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Or maybe better navigation skills? Jus sayin’…. |
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What about offering an outdoors, fresh air, healthful employment alternative to our beloved grandparents working as greeters at Wal-Mart? Benevolent Crag Hosts to help you get oriented and remind you to pack out your trash. Make America Healthy Again! |
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tags on routes in sport climbing areas are really great for the traveling climber. We have run into them a few times in places like Kamuraska. very handy. especially in places with no internet. |
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While having some sort of markers are convenient, I learned to climb in a state that had no guidebook. The guidebooks that were around at the time were pretty poor. You might get two or three sentences for a multi pitch route and no Topo. Somehow, we figured it out. In fact, I think it was part of the experience. |
Jared Kohli wrote: You are getting a lot of sarcasm, but I do not see tags as a problem at sport crags. The rock already has a line of bolts and an anchor. What difference does a small tag make? Why should I have to buy a guidebook for an entire area when I’m just passing through? Why should I search for a route for 1/2 hour whilst being eaten alive by ticks and mosquitos, and getting cut by pricky vines? The pictures/description on MP often leave a lot to be desired and are often inaccurate. This gatekeeping is very tiresome. There’s this puritanical ethos here that is not present in Spain, where they’re more practical. We’re playing in the outdoors just like hikers and kayakers- we’re not special. |
