DOGS!

I retract my earlier comment. It was impulsive, and pointless to this pointless discussion.

Bruno Schullwrote:

No, they are superior to humans.

Well, they're not posting stupid shit on MP I'll give them that.

Fehim Hasecicwrote:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/multiple-mountain-goats-kill-off-180046588.html

The OGs of climbing have had it with the dogs

Beautiful justice from The Law of the Jungle!

Val Ionesco wrote:

young children at the crag are more disruptive than dogs. in most cases much uglier too.

Found the furry

@ Todd--she looks great!  That fur!  Those eyes!  A wonderfull companion.

This is Kyle. He is the new intern in the department of utter chaos. 

We need more mountain goats at crags!

My solution is just to go to a crag that you have to rap down to. 

Sometimes they get the dog, sometimes they get the belayer. Its dangerous outside. 

Todd Berlier wrote:

We are doomed 

Hank Hudleywrote:

We are doomed 

Why? What is wrong with a person rapelling with their dog? I had a dog that was happy to rappel if it meant she got to stay with the rest of her pack (my wife & I) for the day.

This thread needs more pics….

Thanks for the pictures Michael!  

• In the first picture, I see a German Shepard carefully moderating the tension of his bite to play with his human.  I do this with my dog all the time--it's astonishing how gentle she is with her teeth when we rough play, even when she is jumping around, snarling, and so on.  Dogs learn a lot when you play this way.  
• In the second picture, I see a dog carefully protecting his human from a dangerous snake.   This is the kind od thing that dogs have always helped humans with--surviving in the environment.  No wonder ourt bond goes so far back.  Dogs and humans really do enjoy a special connection.
• In the last picture, I see a dog with a terrible tick infestation.  This is a kind of animal cruelty on the part of humans and should be punished as such. 

More generally, I see the effects of global wamring, which has led tick range to expand. 

Thanks again for posting these importanrt reminders.

Bruno Schullwrote:

Thanks for the pictures Michael!  

• In the first picture, I see a German Shepard carefully moderating the tension of his bite to play with his human.  I do this with my dog all the time--it's astonishing how gentle she is with her teeth when we rough play, even when she is jumping around, snarling, and so on.  Dogs learn a lot when you play this way.  
• In the second picture, I see a dog carefully protecting his human from a dangerous snake.   This is the kind od thing that dogs have always helped humans with--surviving in the environment.  No wonder ourt bond goes so far back.  Dogs and humans really do enjoy a special connection.
• In the last picture, I see a dog with a terrible tick infestation.  This is a kind of animal cruelty on the part of humans and should be punished as such. 

More generally, I see the effects of global wamring, which has led tick range to expand. 

Thanks again for posting these importanrt reminders.

I think you should solicit an opinion from the women's only forum again. That went really well for you   

And these….

Hi grug.  

It's strange for you to bring up that other thread, but since you mention it, yes, it started to get a little crazy, before it was locked. 

I thought the woman who responded so forcefully reallly embarassed herself.  She waved her pHD around, talked down to everybody, painted everybody with this same brush without reading any posts, and so on.   My feeling was that her views were incredibly patronizing, arrogant, and agrresive, essentially identical to male sterotypes.  The other woman who responded seemed good hearted.

But anyway, this thread is about dogs.  And as you know, I love dogs!

At the school where I work, I'm organizing trained social dogs to come to our school to support the oldest students (20 years old) during their very stressfull and important week-long final exams.  The dogs (one at a time) will be in a room with a sofa, a dog bed, water, dog treats, and so on. The students will be able to sign-in (also one at a time) and then come into the room and sit with the dog for a few minutes to relax and calm down  before returning to their exams,  I first read about this at a medical school in Norway, but it has become popular at some universities in the UK and the US.  As far as I know, it's the first time it's been done in Switzerland.  My general goal is to bring social dogs and dogsin general to older teenagers and young adults.  There is more organized contact between dogs and younger students, but in my experience teenagers and young adults benefit enourmously as well, so I am trying to build that.  

Two of the dog-owner pairs (they call them teams) come from the local guide and social dog training school.  They breed and train beautiful black labradors (see pictures).  You meet many of them locally, and they are some of the most wonderful, intelligent, calm, and sweet dogs I have ever had the pleasure of interacting with.  We will have "Dagos" and "Hoku."  The third tream is also local, but it is a woman with an wonderful and loving Berner Sennenhunde (see picture) named Jay Jay.   He is HUGE!   He often visits kindergartens and primary schools, where he makes a suitable impression on the kids.  They climb all over him, and then they nap together (he likes to nap).

The fourth dog-owner team with be....Luna and I.  She is formally starting her career as a sopcial dog.  I have know the students in this graduating class for six years, and she has accompanied us on many hiking days and activites, so they are all looking forward to seeing her there.  She was the inspiration.  In the future, I hope to bring her to other schools, hospitals, old age homes, and so on.

After the tests in May, I'll be sure to post pictures here, just for you, grug g, and all the other dog haters, like Will C.  

Keep up the good work guys!

Dagos

Hoku

Jay Jay

Luna

Michael Rushwrote:

And these….

I have no dog in this fight ;) but wait until you see some pictures of what humans can do to each other.

Bruno Schullwrote:

Hi grug.  

It's strange for you to bring up that other thread, but since you mention it, yes, it started to get a little crazy, before it was locked. 

It was YOUR thread, YOU locked it after you got BLASTED. 

Grug, totally apart from our differences about dogs, you are incorrect about the other thread.  

I did NOT lock that thread, or at least I did not do so intentionally.

I would have been happy to continue the conversation.  I did not feel blasted at all, and I enjoy discussing things with people who views seem very differnet from mine, as long as we can do so without attacking each other.  How else can we learn about how other people see the world?

My understanding is that the thread was locked by moderators.  

I tried to unlock it once, but it was immediately re-locked. 

I assume that as soon as one of the respondents, who as I said above seemed good-hearted, said that she felt "uncomfortable," the moderators closed the thread.

The other thread was closed at the same time.  

I don't know if the other thread was closed by the OP or by moderators.