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New and Experienced climbers over 50 ##24

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349
Nick Badyrkawrote:

Hello not too old rockers.  I am starting to get back to climbing after a few year hiatus.  I enjoy reading about your stoke and your challenges, keep on posting and climbing.    Would love to climb with you again Jan and Guy!  

Nick …. Heck yea, great to see you!
The Hostess of this thread, Lori, decided to take up climbing at 60 or so. She likes Josh stories. What goes on here stays here.
Lori FYI… at one time Nick was the hardest climber on the planet with the FA of “Rock Work Orange” And he has stories!


https://www.mountainproject.com/route/105723589/rockwork-orange

Later- Nick 

Bob…. There is a steak house in Almo? Didn’t know. EZ to find? Definitely will look for it. 

Terry E · · San Francisco, CA · Joined Aug 2011 · Points: 43
Idaho Bobwrote:

Rock City has an extensive selection of craft beers, wine and beer available at the Almo Steak House.

The Rock City pizza place has a pretty good selection too. I was quite surprised. And yeah, definitely cheaper than Canada.

Carl Schneider · · Mount Torrens, South Australia · Joined Dec 2017 · Points: 0

My resting heart rate is generally about 55ish. I’m apparently borderline high blood pressure but I refuse to take any medications. I know mine is likely due to too much beer and general stress.  Also a gravitation to corn chips. Basically, other than climbing for two hours three to four times a week i do no exercise and eat like shit. But I’m only 65.5 kilos. I can lose weight really fast. If I go without dinner two days in a row I can easily lose a kilo. Generally I try to keep my weight in the range 65 to 66.5 and my BF 12.8%.

Lori Milas · · Joshua Tree, CA · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 250

I was going to let this go but it’s truly on my mind. I saw a post last week about a very large scary looking bug perched on a woman’s car (locally) and the consensus was that it is a Tarantula Hawk.  This is a wasp that paralyzes tarantulas with its sting, plants its eggs inside the immobilized tarantula which then feed upon the tarantula until they hatch and leave the tarantula dead.  

This totally freaks me out because it is so similar to the cordyceps fungus we talked about earlier. That one kept me up nights. More importantly its sting is the 2nd most painful sting in the world.  

I could have sworn that was what I saw today hovering over my tomato plant.  If so, I’m moving.

I’m ok with rattle snakes, scorpions and tarantulas but this one is the deal breaker. Seriously, it has me pretty disturbed.
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Everything else can wait.  Carry on.   

Idaho Bob · · McCall, ID · Joined Apr 2013 · Points: 757
Guy Keeseewrote:

Bob…. There is a steak house in Almo? Didn’t know. EZ to find? Definitely will look for it. 

It reopened last year after being closed for 3-4 years.  For lunch and early dinner there now is a "restaurant" that opened in the old school house.  

Idaho Bob · · McCall, ID · Joined Apr 2013 · Points: 757
Old lady Hwrote:

Bob, you still got snow up there? I think it likely snowed while you were off cycling!

Hi Helen:  town is snow free.  Snow line is now about 6,000ft.  The four high mountain passes in Valley County are closed with potential open dates mid-June to early July.  Tried to ride to Upper Payette Lake today, road was closed and snow covered just passed the snowmobile parking lot on Warren Wagon Road.  Will be weeks until the road to Warren is open (unless you have a snowmobile).

phylp phylp · · Upland · Joined May 2015 · Points: 1,142
Lori Milaswrote:


(I’ll bet there are resting heart rates here in the 50’s (??) )

My husband, who is out on the road bike 5 days a week, has a resting heart rate around 44-46. He is fit.  Mine is 54-58 but I am no kind of aerobic athlete at all.  My typical blood pressure is about 110/65-70.  This is not because I'm fit. I'm not very fit at all.   I have a very, very slow metabolism.  The numbers reflect me being close to clinically deceased on a daily basis.

Sue Hopkins · · San Diego. · Joined Oct 2016 · Points: 0
phylp phylpwrote:

My husband, who is out on the road bike 5 days a week, has a resting heart rate around 44-46. He is fit.  Mine is 54-58 but I am no kind of aerobic athlete at all.  My typical blood pressure is about 110/65-70.  This is not because I'm fit. I'm not very fit at all.   I have a very, very slow metabolism.  The numbers reflect me being close to clinically deceased on a daily basis.

Women tend to have higher resting heartrates than men. Mine rarely got below 60 even when I was bike racing. Don’t discount the workout you get climbing. A climbing pack is heavy and you get an aerobic workout on the approach. Plus when actually climbing heartrates can get surprisingly high. I was shocked the first time I wore my Apple Watch on a climb. I know it’s accurate because I checked against an EKG during a couple of max tests in my lab. its basically high intensity interval training. I can hit 180 bpm (which is close to my max, but everyone’s max is different).

Lori Milas · · Joshua Tree, CA · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 250
Sue Hopkinswrote:

Women tend to have higher resting heartrates than men. Mine rarely got below 60 even when I was bike racing. Don’t discount the workout you get climbing. A climbing pack is heavy and you get an aerobic workout on the approach. Plus when actually climbing heartrates can get surprisingly high. I was shocked the first time I wore my Apple Watch on a climb. I know it’s accurate because I checked against an EKG during a couple of max tests in my lab. its basically high intensity interval training. I can hit 180 bpm (which is close to my max, but everyone’s max is different).

I’m so glad you wrote this Sue. I wear a Whoop and many times it has clocked my heart rate at 170 to 180. I ran this by my doctor and he had to consult with a cardiologist colleague before he felt safe and telling me it’s OK. There’s rules for women over 65, but the rules get suspended if you mention rock climbing.  

last September when I was pretty sick in earnest, my doctor said “when older women come to me with fatigue it’s always their heart so I want to go get your heart checked out.“ So off I went to the ER for seven hours hooked up to all the machines, and they finally sent me home saying “it’s not your heart.“ 

I still find it sad that not one of my doctors has ever asked me what I eat, how I sleep, or whether I exercise. Actually, the nurse has a little form she fills out that includes whether or not I exercise but I don’t think anyone pays attention to that. On the other hand, they want to carefully document what drugs I am taking and it seems to upset them when the list is so short.

This could be the beginning of a rant, so I’ll stop here.

Jay Goodwin · · OR-NV-CA-ID-WY · Joined May 2016 · Points: 14
phylp phylpwrote:

The numbers reflect me being close to clinically deceased on a daily basis.

LOL!

Oldtradguy · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 15
phylp phylpwrote:

My husband, who is out on the road bike 5 days a week, has a resting heart rate around 44-46. He is fit.  Mine is 54-58 but I am no kind of aerobic athlete at all.  My typical blood pressure is about 110/65-70.  This is not because I'm fit. I'm not very fit at all.   I have a very, very slow metabolism.  The numbers reflect me being close to clinically deceased on a daily basis.

Phylp

Before Jean and I went on a 2 month road trip, my resting heart rate was around 53-54. I took it the last 2 days and it was 48 Thursday and 49 this morning. I have also lost 6-7 pounds on our road trip. We did a lot of hiking and climbing on that trip. 

Jean also has us eating oatmeal for breakfast every day for over the past 6 months. I get a quarter of a cup of oatmeal, 1-1.5 teaspoons of 50:50 mixture of ground flax and pumpkin seeds, hand full of raisins and cinnamon with half of cup of water and nuke it for 2 minutes. At home, I throw in a handful of blueberries.

We have almost all of the plants that we want in our garden. I made raised beds years ago(8x24 foot). 4 different types of tomatoes, squash, zucchini, potatoes, cucumbers, red peppers, green beans, and some herbs.

We will be opening up the pool the middle of June. If anyone is in the area contact me to climb locally at Ralph Stover State Park and then we can go swimming and have a BBQ afterwards.

John

Lori Milas · · Joshua Tree, CA · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 250
Oldtradguywrote:

Phylp

Before Jean and I went on a 2 month road trip, my resting heart rate was around 53-54. I took it the last 2 days and it was 48 Thursday and 49 this morning. I have also lost 6-7 pounds on our road trip. We did a lot of hiking and climbing on that trip. 

Jean also has us eating oatmeal for breakfast every day for over the past 6 months. I get a quarter of a cup of oatmeal, 1-1.5 teaspoons of 50:50 mixture of ground flax and pumpkin seeds, hand full of raisins and cinnamon with half of cup of water and nuke it for 2 minutes. At home, I throw in a handful of blueberries.

We have almost all of the plants that we want in our garden. I made raised beds years ago(8x24 foot). 4 different types of tomatoes, squash, zucchini, potatoes, cucumbers, red peppers, green beans, and some herbs.

We will be opening up the pool the middle of June. If anyone is in the area contact me to climb locally at Ralph Stover State Park and then we can go swimming and have a BBQ afterwards.

John

Nice, John!  But where are the squirrels, rabbits, snakes and scorpions? I have extra rubber snakes if you need some. They seem to do the trick here.   And why are you and Jean not at COR?

Beautiful green yard and raised beds, John.  I hope your trip was lovely. Now for a great summer!

I got out to climb a bit this morning. It took a minute to get the hang of rock with features and even a little overhung. As usual the first hour I was tentative and shy. By the finish I felt pretty fearless but pumped.  We were in the vicinity of Brownie Girl Dome but I’m not certain the route.  I proclaimed it a 5.11.  Bob assured me it was a 5.8.   



We watched the final episode of Better Call Saul last night.  Anyone seen it?  

Oldtradguy · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 15
Lori Milaswrote:

Nice, John!  But where are the squirrels, rabbits, snakes and scorpions? I have extra rubber snakes if you need some. They seem to do the trick here.   And why are you and Jean not at COR?

Lori

No scorpions around here. The rabbits and squirrels do not bother the garden too much. We have a lot of land for them to eat. 

Snakes are different story. We use landscape fabric in the garden around the plants. This cuts down on weeding the garden. After a year or two, they break down and need to throw away. One year I put a couple ripped ones into a 5 gallon bucket and left it in the garden area. Jean told me to throw it out. I did not.

They next year when we we going to replant the garden, she saw the bucket. Obviously, she was mad at me. When she picked up the bucket and moved it, about 20 baby snakes were in it. She was not a happy camper. She throw the entire bucket into our back field and then ripped me a new butt.

Here is picture back this Feb that this snake lives under our front door landing. Our grandson was walking in the front door and said there is a snake by the door.

One day went I went out to the garage, I saw this guy on my windshield wiper. I have no idea of how he got there,

I did take him for a short drive down the road. He did get off fairly quickly once I was driving.

John

Idaho Bob · · McCall, ID · Joined Apr 2013 · Points: 757

Snake story.  One evening my daughter comes inside and says "Dad, there is a snake in the front yard and it was after my kitten".  My reply, "It's almost completely dark out there, probably just a stick"  Debbie goes back outside, runs back in and says "Dad, the stick just crawled under the big rock out front".  Still thinking she's mistaken I go out with a flashlight and peer under the rock.  Greeted by rattles.  Yes, a BIG rattlesnake.  It starts to slither out and Debbie (9 years old) cuts it in half with a shovel.  Moral of the story don't try to mess with Debbie's kitten! This happened 43 years ago.  Now part of the Bechaud family history.

Oldtradguy · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 15
Idaho Bobwrote:

Snake story.  One evening my daughter comes inside and says "Dad, there is a snake in the front yard and it was after my kitten".  My reply, "It's almost completely dark out there, probably just a stick"  Debbie goes back outside, runs back in and says "Dad, the stick just crawled under the big rock out front".  Still thinking she's mistaken I go out with a flashlight and peer under the rock.  Greeted by rattles.  Yes, a BIG rattlesnake.  It starts to slither out and Debbie (9 years old) cuts it in half with a shovel.  Moral of the story don't try to mess with Debbie's kitten! This happened 43 years ago.  Now part of the Bechaud family history.

Bob

Great story.

By the way, did you get complete eye site recovery after the detached retina?

John

Idaho Bob · · McCall, ID · Joined Apr 2013 · Points: 757
Oldtradguywrote:

Bob

Great story.

By the way, did you get complete eye site recovery after the detached retina?

John

No, not complete, but functional.  Focal distance is mis-matched and some distortion in the damaged eye. Surgeon says it's as good as it will get and no correction/adjustment via glasses, etc. is possible. But the brain adjusts and with both eyes open foot placement when climbing is now OK.  Last July, the first climb, 6 weeks after surgery, was the scariest of my life.  Could not judge foot placements at all.  Climbed at Potrero Chico in March and that was OK, but that's limestone with endless placement options.  We'll see how it goes at the City next month but I'm expecting OK.  BTW, I finally made it to the Gunks and did High Exposure, thanks again for the guide book.

Nick Goldsmith · · NEK · Joined Aug 2009 · Points: 470

COR is so friendly. I have only been there one week. It was stellar. My impression was that the rock was super grippy, lots of holds and good gear. 

K M · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2023 · Points: 0

COR is a treasure for sure. I think my first trip was 1965 or so. Just old enough my friend could drive. We had graduated from punk kids stealing soft iron pitons from climbs in Ogden canyon to actually inter acting with the "old guys" with the Steinfeld's climbing club in Ogden. Little did I know I would be going to school with Jeff and Greg Lowe a few years later. Fun times for sure.

Nick Goldsmith · · NEK · Joined Aug 2009 · Points: 470

M M · · Maine · Joined Oct 2020 · Points: 2

The City is much like Jtree but much better rock quality IMO. Two of my favorite places to climb.

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