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New and Experienced climbers over 50 #22

S. Neoh · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2009 · Points: 35

Kalymnos is so ridiculously beautiful, or at least as such when I was there in Oct 2018.


And some low-res pics from the most fun 800-foot 5.10 sport route ever :) 
https://www.mountainproject.com/photo/115411325
https://www.mountainproject.com/photo/115411305 

Nick Goldsmith · · NEK · Joined Aug 2009 · Points: 470

got out after my photo gig today.  Haven't climbed much between PT , moving and getting back to work.  ran up to the crag and did my usual pre accident bouldering routine followed by a 3 mile speed hike in the dark. happy place. 

one of my boulder problems goes about 15ft right of this climber

its a good crag

Carl Schneider · · Mount Torrens, South Australia · Joined Dec 2017 · Points: 0

I got out for a climb today, first in a week after getting covid. Didn’t feel too bad but kept it to a small sesh, just TRing, two laps of a 16, 4 of a 21, with two laps back to back.
I feel like I have a new lease on life and should employ a plan.  

Randy · · Lassitude 33 · Joined Jan 2002 · Points: 1,285

No more biking and sailing (saw some cool cliffs from the sail boat), but got a quick climbing session in today along the Sea in Cali Gonone

Lori Milas · · Joshua Tree, CA · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 250
Randywrote:

No more biking and sailing (saw some cool cliffs from the sail boat), but got a quick climbing session in today along the Sea in Cali Gonone

Nice, Randy!  Beautiful pictures!  You look good at the helm. 

Lori Milas · · Joshua Tree, CA · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 250

I bumped into this photo from last season. Bob worked with me endlessly while I tried to do the whole route in one go but it was at my limit and something always tripped me up. Tiptoe to Topanga. On the very last climb I got to the top without a literal fall but there was quite a wobble and I think Bob just wanted to be done with it and we called it good.   Now looking back I’m thinking about the fatigue I felt and at the time trying to figure out whether it was about being too old to climb or maybe something to do with not enough proteins or vitamins. As I recall I was wearing a Whoop and measuring everything trying to figure out the exhaustion and loss of strength. Now I know things were just out of whack in my body and I was overriding all the signs. I thought I was listening but I missed a big one.

I finished the last of the third round of antiprotozoal drug on Sunday and I have to really hope that it did the job. Anyone who has been reading my posts knows that along the way I’ve done a lot of sleuthing, from getting rid of all the plastics in our house to the candles and any kind of solvent to even losing the chocolate because of the lead and cadmium so I guess that can’t be bad. Now I am praying for a true recovery and come back. I’d like to climb the same route 20+ pounds lighter and far healthier. That’s my wish. Thank you guys for your encouragement And all the love you spread around.

It was embarrassing to admit at the time but one of my motivations for climbing this route was because another climber couldn’t do it. I never knew I had any ego with Climbing but I was pretty determined to make it to the top just for the record.

phylp phylp · · Upland · Joined May 2015 · Points: 1,142
Randywrote:

No more biking and sailing (saw some cool cliffs from the sail boat), but got a quick climbing session in today along the Sea in Cali Gonone

Coincidently, on Tuesday of last week, I was leading a route called Road to Cala Gonone in the ORG!

(this route was a first ascent by a Bay Area friend of mine, Bob Zambetti, who loves Sardinia)

Carl Schneider · · Mount Torrens, South Australia · Joined Dec 2017 · Points: 0

Lemon, lime, lots of honey, fresh ginger, gin, hot water. 

What shall it be called?

Tim Schafstall · · Newark, DE · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 1,358

Based on the lack of traffic, it seems not much happening around here. 

My fall climbing took a big hit thanks to a ruptured, and now freshly repaired, Achilles tendon.  First major injury in 64 years.  It was a good run.

It would be nice if y'all would relate some tales of derring-do to keep me amused.

Lori Milas · · Joshua Tree, CA · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 250
Todd Berlier wrote:

fuuuck. sorry to hear that. for a lot of us i assume, fall is the glory time and missing it for an injury hurts. get well soon!

Lori,  how are you? been thinking about you, checking the page...?

Hey Todd. Thanks so much for asking. Yes I’ve been checking the page and it’s hard. I’ve been in a pretty dark place and decided this morning that from here on out my attitude is going to be everything. I was discouraged after the first round of medicine failed and even more discouraged after the second.  Now I am just positive that the third one has failed as well even though I am feeling better. there’s every good chance that I am on the mend and I’m just too depressed to accept it, 

 I know it will just take time and how I interpret symptoms such as fatigue at this point it’s going to be really important. If I think it’s because I’m sick and nothing is going to work that is a bad place to be.

It seems that everyone has taken some kind of hit in the last few years. Tim I’m so sorry about the ruptured Achilles. I never expected this thread to be about old age, illness, infirmity but maybe it is just part of life and every bit of affirmation and support really helps. I know my doctor is working hard not to give in to my hysteria and to hold a steady course. I was ready to pack my bags and drive to Cedar Sinai yesterday but in reality I may be well on my way to a full recovery. So the same positivity that we all have applied to climbing  I hope I can apply in this case.  I hope you all  can support each other as well while we try to get through it and back on the rock. I will say I am tired of people dying in rockclimbing accidents, this is getting old and it seems so entirely unnecessary – – but I guess that’s neither here nor there. I love all you guys more than I can say please be careful.

 I

phylp phylp · · Upland · Joined May 2015 · Points: 1,142
Tim Schafstallwrote:

Based on the lack of traffic, it seems not much happening around here. 

My fall climbing took a big hit thanks to a ruptured, and now freshly repaired, Achilles tendon.  First major injury in 64 years.  It was a good run.

It would be nice if y'all would relate some tales of derring-do to keep me amused.

oh, no, Tim!  That's terrible news.  Mend up quickly!

To give you a laugh, I'm posting my favorite photo of the recent trip we took to Bishop, taken by my friend Andy (who is with Brandt in JT this week).  Neither Skip or I can figure out what we were looking at in this photo.  

We had a great 9 days there.  Busy, fun and exhausting!  Got to climb with partners Andy, Skip, Michael (my honey who rarely climbs), Diane, and Denise down from Reno.  Connected with Jodi in the evening and Dan in the Gorge, but sorry I missed connecting with local friends Scott and Frumie.  It's all about the peoples!

I got to do a number of excellent repeats and 5 new-to-me Gorge routes, which brings my distinct ORG route total up to 250.  My favorite of the new-to-me routes was an old route called New Traditionalists. a crack in a corner that had a ton of variety of movement on it - stemming, hand, lieback, a tad of offwidth, face climbing - super, super fun!

I'm catching up with chores at my house this week.  We head to Red Rock next week.  I'll try to remember to take some photos to share.   I always forget!

Tim Schafstall · · Newark, DE · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 1,358
Lori Milaswrote:

Hey Todd. Thanks so much for asking. Yes I’ve been checking the page and it’s hard. I’ve been in a pretty dark place and decided this morning that from here on out my attitude is going to be everything. I was discouraged after the first round of medicine failed and even more discouraged after the second.  Now I am just positive that the third one has failed as well even though I am feeling better. there’s every good chance that I am on the mend and I’m just too depressed to accept it, 

 I know it will just take time and how I interpret symptoms such as fatigue at this point it’s going to be really important. If I think it’s because I’m sick and nothing is going to work that is a bad place to be.

It seems that everyone has taken some kind of hit in the last few years. Tim I’m so sorry about the ruptured Achilles. I never expected this thread to be about old age, illness, infirmity but maybe it is just part of life and every bit of affirmation and support really helps. I know my doctor is working hard not to give in to my hysteria and to hold a steady course. I was ready to pack my bags and drive to Cedar Sinai yesterday but in reality I may be well on my way to a full recovery. So the same positivity that we all have applied to climbing  I hope I can apply in this case.  I hope you all  can support each other as well while we try to get through it and back on the rock. I will say I am tired of people dying in rockclimbing accidents, this is getting old and it seems so entirely unnecessary – – but I guess that’s neither here nor there. I love all you guys more than I can say please be careful.

 I

Many times there have been hard moves on climbs that I swore I would never get. Not even close.  Just kept plugging away and then one day, the once impossible move feels easy.  But the key is to keep trying.  The difference with being sick, the difference that is hard to overcome, is that one feels bad, mentally, physically, or both, every time you "try" that move. So there is that to overcome as well.  How about we all get better and do some climbing in the spring (well, late spring for me   ).

Ward Smith · · Wendell MA · Joined Oct 2020 · Points: 26

Foliage pretty much at peak.

wendy weiss · · boulder, co · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 10
Todd Berlier wrote:

ok, let's make this a game to cheer up Tim and Lori!

im going to say you guys are looking in disgust at a shirtless dude coming up to the climb you guys are on, with a dog off leash, that just got done having diarrhea on a juniper tree, while blaring techno music on a Bluetooth. 

This sounds like a fun idea, but the only thing that comes to mind involves a red hat, which violates our no politics policy. Sorry.

Old lady H · · Boise, ID · Joined Aug 2015 · Points: 1,375
phylp phylpwrote:

 Neither Skip or I can figure out what we were looking at in this photo.  

"Shit! Is that our gear up there???"

Tim, heal up well!

Carl....dunno, but it looks nice.

Lori? You've gotten through lots worse than this. It will change eventually, whatever your attitude. So do what you've always done, and muddle along anyway, as best you can. Maybe Carl will write ya a good fuck this shit poem?

It's gorgeous here, no smoke, great temps, including at City.....soooo tempting.

But...

I'm hunkered down, because my surgery dates are finally set, after waiting more than a year! Not risking being around people, if this is when I finally got covid, that would cancel the surgery.

Next week is presurgery appointment, then the week after is surgery. That means I'm not climbing for awhile, dunno how long before I can do stuff, but climbing is probably toward the bottom of the list. Walking is probably as soon as I can wobble around, lol! 

After that?

Well, it's a BIG chunk o change out of my own pocket. No insurance. So I need to live up to the investment, or at least try. See what I can make of an almost 66 year old body.

But, as stated above?

It's still the people that matter most, so that's what my to do list is.

People like you!

Uh, figuratively. 

Although....

Hmmmm....

Best, Helen 

Guy Keesee · · Moorpark, CA · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 349

Tim- oh no! Heal up- take a lot of time.

Carl- is that Covid tea?

Lori- getting old is a bitch. Things stop working like they usta do, pain just comes on without any reason. It’s the cost of getting old, a cheap cost considering the time you get to be alive. A cost I gladly pay just to continue living.

Phylp- good times in Bishop. Skippy is looking pretty good- Bishop life suits her.

Just returned from Europe, it’s been years for me. My German was just starting to come back to me then it was time to go home.

Later 

And due to jet lag I messed up that photo paste.

dragons · · New Paltz, NY · Joined Aug 2011 · Points: 958

Hey all, sorry for being absent! I can see I've missed a lot of interesting goings-on.

We got out with Rich this week. As always with him, it was a wonderful day!

rgold leading Limelight P2 (5.7):

WF WF51 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Oct 2020 · Points: 0
Tim Schafstallwrote:

Based on the lack of traffic, it seems not much happening around here. 

My fall climbing took a big hit thanks to a ruptured, and now freshly repaired, Achilles tendon.  First major injury in 64 years.  It was a good run.

It would be nice if y'all would relate some tales of derring-do to keep me amused.

I went out and got the mail today; pretty intense.

Lori Milas · · Joshua Tree, CA · Joined Apr 2017 · Points: 250

Helen, you’ve been wanting this for a long time I’m so happy the time is near. Wish we could be there too help you in the aftermath but it sounds like you’ve got plenty of caretakers if you need them. I’m just so impressed that you’ve identified some thing you really want and are getting it for yourself. Do we get before and after pictures?    

I love funny stories but right now I wouldn’t mind some recovery stories. I really followed closely when Guy was heading into surgery and then the days weeks and months after his surgery. My fingers were so crossed for him. There were times guy sounded pretty hopeless then I remember him reporting him that he had just climbed a EZ something somewhere and it had gone OK.  

We now know that Carl recovers from everything and not much keeps him down although he gets in bad moods and drinks and writes poetry. But Carl is resilient.

I am surprised how much constant reassurance I need. I went for my massage today with that Thai gal that I named Rolf. I told her I need really gentle calming touch so she picked me up by my heels and shook me hard and then proceeded to get me in some sort of a chokehold and I realized I was handling it I.  asked her if I looked sick and she said hell no are you sick? And that made me feel really good and then she told me to eat a lot of eggs like 4 dozen a week. At this point I consider all advice has worthy.


I was telling John today that Tony is incorrigible and you just have to accept  some things about people. Tony was driving me to the ER several times and I was really sick and nauseous I asked him to take it slow and easy down the grade. He told me I was making him sick. He just can’t do it. All the way there and back he was hitting the brakes for every stop sign and gunning it on the green lights, Darting in and out of traffic and more than once flipping somebody off who did absolutely nothing and flapping his arms because he’s Italian. I told him he’s a genuine asshole on the road which I think he took as a compliment. Beggars can’t be choosers and if I have to go to the hospital I guess that’s the way it is but other than that I don’t want to be a passenger. So relationships with Tony and Rolf… You just got accept them for who they are. 

Tim Schafstall · · Newark, DE · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 1,358
WF WF51wrote:

I went out and got the mail today; pretty intense.

I did that also.  It was a big adventure.  I even went all the way to my neighbors roll off container - the far end ! 

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