Defunct Climbing Terminology
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Kevin Mokracekwrote: I still have a couple harnesses like that as well, it was just funny that she would say, “double-backed”, instead of “doubled-back”. |
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Balewrote: Nothing odd about that, if you've read Othello. |
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slimwrote: I think she may just be uninformed. |
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slimwrote: I'm 16, I don't have a credit card, I bum rides to the crag, am I a dirtbag? |
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Hank Hudleywrote: You are a minor dirtbag. At 18, you can aspire to be a major dirtbag. |
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do you live with your parents? |
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Hank Hudleywrote: I think that's just called a teenager. You can be a "Teenage Dirtbag", of course. Someone made a famous song about that...before you were born. |
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Bryan Kwrote: I've seen this too. I wonder if standardizing commands across generations is a lost cause because the younger generation feels it fundamentally uncool to be consistent with the older generation. |
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Serge Swrote: "Yeah, but you know what I meant!" - one of the most infuriating Gen-Z phrases ever. |
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Seems like the term "gaston" has changed. I recall it being a technique that looked like one was trying to pull the crack apart. It came, I thought from a picture of Gaston Rebuffat ascending a wide crack with the method. One had to get solid foot jams for the method to work. From what I've seen, the new term seems to refer to a similar looking method, though on sideways face holds. |
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Eric Engbergwrote: At least 25 years ago. I don’t know where it came from but I don’t know if I believe it’s a shortened version of “ascend”. |
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Jon Nelsonwrote: Never heard it described as a crack technique before, makes sense though. What else would you call a Gaston move? A backhand? A layback behind you? |
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About gaston, I thought we used to call them "sidepulls". Does anybody else still use the term? Having two opposing sidepulls that you "pull apart" with both hands is what I first though the new "gaston" meant, but it seems like it is also used to mean just one sidepull. As you can see, I'm a little confused about the new gaston... |
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Jon Nelsonwrote: In modern terms if a hold faces right and you're using it with your right hand it's a sidepull. If it faces left it's a gaston. The "pull apart" motion is a "double gaston," where both hands are in a gaston. |
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Jon Nelsonwrote: As almost a soul gym climber with one shitty crack in our gym, we have plenty of Gaston moves on holds that are not on crack. It’s the same hand move, I think it just got translated to other areas of climbing |
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Jon Nelsonwrote: Side pull means to pull inwards and Gaston is to pull apart |
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Andre Sarrazinwrote: As normally used, Gaston has meant more to push or pull outwards on a roughly vertical hold. As said above, while the name did derive from a picture of Gaston Rebuffat climbing a crack using both hands that way, it normally has been used to describe any hold used in this manner. Though I’m not 100% certain, I believe that the term was coined by Jack Mileski and crew at the Gunks in the ‘80s as part of the original climbing ‘beta’ while they group sieged the hard projects of the day there. |
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FrankPSwrote: I don't know... college seems somewhat appealing. |
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Supposedly last year's Reel Rock was going to feature the clip below, a historical reenactment of his warmup routine. However, after spending over $69,000 in member dues to conduct a Microaggression Impact Study, the Access Fund deemed that clip contributed to a culture of toxic masculinity and threatened to pull funding from Reel Rock if it were included. Gaston's many FA's in the Font -- which include Expectoration Station V10+, Biceps to Spare V11, and Intimidating Specimen V13 -- have been redacted and are sadly lost in the annals of climbing history. |
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I read somewhere that the French call a gaston "une epaule," a shoulder |