What in climbing are you a snob about?

People who say underclang 

Climbing gear must color coordinate. This is the way.

Pino Pepinowrote:

A gym should really only be a collection of boards, spray walls, traverses, maybe a free weights area. I'd happily pay the same fee or more just to avoid all the gym bros. 'Misanthropy rocks' would be a good name for the gym. Only eligible for membership if you onsight 5.12 and pass a test about existentialist philosophy or can recite from the Leviathan.  I'm sure there are like-minded climbers around who share my optimism about human nature and psyche for climbing.

There's a bouldering gym like that in a mountain town near me. No walk-ins, members only, minimum 3 month membership (you have to email some random person to buy a membership) no dogs, no kids, private facebook page is the only online presence.

I'm sure it's a fully sick scene, but that's a little too snobby for me...especially as the only public climbing gym in the area is going out of business.

Isaiah aka Zay Foulks wrote:

I like your post because it actually highlights what i think is wrong with this thread. Your first two points dont strike me as "snobbery"  (as most peoples' comments dont) rather they just strike me as judgemental.

Your third point is perfect snobbery.

My comment was about never climbing at a certain crag because its tiny and mostly bouldering. Snobbery. 

Should we just just start over?

Hence me calling them out as pet peeves! Agreed though, reference my third point for true snob behavior. 

Chris tophwrote:

Spelling on MP: Maybe this is more of a pet peeve as well, but for the love of God, it's "rappel" not "repel." Why is no one aware of this?

I started a thread on this some time ago. I also included malapropisms, incorrect homonym usage, et al: for all intensive purposes, what should I do about this pain in my heal, sole/soul, grips instead of holds, I went indirect...

Wyatt Nwrote:

People who say underclang 

Is that the simple past verb for undercling? Like, "yeah that pitch was sick, I punched it through the roof, then underclang the last crux move before I whipped."

Mark Starrwrote:

Is that the simple past verb for undercling? Like, "yeah that pitch was sick, I punched it through the roof, then underclang the last crux move before I whipped."

Maybe? Although I’ve heard many people say underclang not in the past tense.

That’s how it is said in the southern regions: “Ya’ll tried that new route at the Ranch. It’s got this see-ick underclang crux… and I ain’t just awoofin’ neither!”

Edit: As Matthew notes, the correct contraction is “Y’all”. Pardon.

R E Rwrote:

Climbing gear must color coordinate. This is the way.

This is why I painted all my cams green. 

Daniel Joderwrote:

That’s how it is said in the southern regions: “Y’all tried that new route at the Ranch. It’s got this see-ick underclang crux… and I ain’t just awoofin’ neither!”

Ftfy

Thanks, Matthew… !

Daniel Joderwrote:

Thanks, Matthew… !

Np

Misusing "onsight" and "flash". Yes dammit it matters, especially these days where endless beta is a swipe away on social media. Not to mention, a few occasional partners of mine still log sport climb ascents as pinkpoints.

But worst of all, there is a spreading disease where people are casually reporting bolt-to-bolt hangdog ascents as "free ascents" because they were able to do every move. Over at thecrag.com they added an "All free (with rest)" tick type, apparently for some obscure region in Saxony with even more obscure ethics, but some unbearably naive gumby found it and now people are using it all the time.

Stop ticking ON the foot! Chalk-rubber friction is not a thing.

Dylan Levarwrote:

Stop ticking ON the foot! Chalk-rubber friction is not a thing.

I think the real solution here is for people to just brush their ticks. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Haven’t read the thread so don’t know if this was mentioned.  

But sandbagging.  I’m all for a little bit of a sandbag but what drives me nuts is hard boys with big egos downgrading/downplaying seriousness of routes.  

Yes I get that because you comfortably climb 5.12 this 5.9/5.10 doesn’t feel dangerousor runout.  However it most definitely is for anyone climbing those grades.  

Also I think historical grades are kind of bullshit.  I know everyone wants to chest thump at their local crag but that “old school 5.9” is just a 10+ Can we stop pretending otherwise?

Another pet peeve is climbers running it out for no reason.   I know way too many moderate trad climbers that think it’s a badge of honor to barely place any gear.   When you’re running out climbs 1-2 grades below your desperation on-site limit you don’t look cool, you look stupid.   

Also, 

• not protecting the belay on a multi pitch 
• Insisting on bringing the rack when you never lead
• Having the wrong rack/missing gear because it’s a pig sty 
• Super skinny ropes cragging.   Sure if you’re trying to send your hard sport project go ahead.  But I don’t want to crag on rock with sharp edges on an 8.5
• People that bring their whole collection of climbing gear rod multipitch and then don’t want to leave it at the base. 
• Speed clipping.   People that yard the rope up at lightning speed before clipping.  I’ve seen people do this who look down like you’re short roping them when they are pulling an armload of rope up to clip a draw by their waist.
• Bad belays.   Usually from people who never fall off.  Standing way too far away from the wall + huge loop of penalty slack.  I hate when an otherwise short fall on gear turns into a defacto 20+ footer because of all the slack in the system.
  
  

greggryllswrote:

Also, 

• Insisting on bringing the rack when you never lead

Could you explain this? As in newbies wanting to break in their shiny new rack or something else?

greggryllswrote:

Haven’t read the thread so don’t know if this was mentioned.  

I absolutely love this preface! “I don’t give a crap about what anyone else says, but here’s what I think...”

Don’t mean to single you out bud, but this happens sooo often in MP threads. By the time you get to page 20 you’ve got hot takes that are already recycled from pages 7, 13, and 16. I suppose that makes me a snob about folks who comment on a thread they don’t actually read.

It’s like the Internet equivalency of when your trying to have a conversation with someone who won’t even let you finish your story to interrupt with with a similar story that revolves around themselves.

Cronwrote:

I absolutely love this preface! “I don’t give a crap about what anyone else says, but here’s what I think...”

Don’t mean to single you out bud, but this happens sooo often in MP threads. I suppose that makes me a snob about folks who comment on a thread they don’t actually read.

It’s like the Internet equivocally of when your trying to have a conversation with someone who won’t even let you finish your story to interrupt with with a similar story that revolves around themselves.

At what point do you think it's okay to skip a few pages? It is 20 pages long, after all. 

And it does say, "What in climbing are you a snob about?" With that, they should have just commented like everyone else in the thread did and not said anything about not reading it from start to finish. You wouldn't have known the difference. Plus, it's not like we're changing the course of climbing history with this thread or anything; it's a time kill, or a time suck; for those who want to spend that much time reading 20 pages of snobbery.

Of course, to be fair, there are definitely threads here where reading the whole thing matters. This just doesn't happen to be one of them.