What in climbing are you a snob about?

Victor Machtelwrote:

It's been covered here before but the Litany Against Fear always comes to mind whenever doing something on my limit, especially on lead...

I use it all the time.

nat vorelwrote:

as a member of the USAC paraclimbing team & paraclimbing national champion, remind me never to climb with this dude

I thought I was being obvious in my use of sarcasm and irony to say I found his comments disrespectful of those who are disabled. (Maybe you didn't read the entire agonizing thread and, like Donny in The Big Lebowski, have no context?) Let me say it this way: Eugenics is a horrifying concept only a monster would sincerely even consider. During law school I interned at the Oregon Advocacy Center to help implement and enforce the ADA, and it wasn't because I wanted to undermine or insult those who are disabled when I could have been interning at a big fat corporate law firm. (And this is why I don't post much anymore) and 

bryanswrote:

I thought I was being obvious in my use of sarcasm and irony...

Sarcasm and irony are extremely difficult to communicate in on-line forums unless you explicitly state that it is sarcasm or irony.

bryanswrote:

I thought I was being obvious in my use of sarcasm and irony to say I found his comments disrespectful of those who are disabled. (Maybe you didn't read the entire agonizing thread and, like Donny in The Big Lebowski, have no context?) Let me say it this way: Eugenics is a horrifying concept only a monster would sincerely even consider. During law school I interned at the Oregon Advocacy Center to help implement and enforce the ADA, and it wasn't because I wanted to undermine or insult those who are disabled when I could have been interning at a big fat corporate law firm. (And this is why I don't post much anymore) and 

nah i was talking about the dude you were responding to; totally down to climb with you lol

Marc801 Cwrote:

Sarcasm and irony are extremely difficult to communicate to most Americans unless you explicitly state that it is sarcasm or irony.

ftfy

Colonel Von Spankerwrote:

But what if it’s a LEAD card?

Best to also be snobbish about gyms which require cards or certification. Gyms should just make you sign a liability waiver and offer instruction on request. It should a) be common sense to seek instruction and b) be taught by people who are actually qualified. Most gyms requiring certification attract hordes of people who lack a) (hence requiring certification) and offer instruction by people who are barely literate about climbing. 

A gym should really only be a collection of boards, spray walls, traverses, maybe a free weights area. I'd happily pay the same fee or more just to avoid all the gym bros. 'Misanthropy rocks' would be a good name for the gym. Only eligible for membership if you onsight 5.12 and pass a test about existentialist philosophy or can recite from the Leviathan.  I'm sure there are like-minded climbers around who share my optimism about human nature and psyche for climbing.

 Weather i guess....

Pino Pepinowrote:

Only eligible for membership if you onsight 5.12 and pass a test about existentialist philosophy or can recite from the Leviathan.  I'm sure there are like-minded climbers around who share my optimism about human nature and psyche for climbing.

Without looking it up (this is a test to get into a gym after all), explain the influence Husserl’s phenomenology had on Heidegger’s method of ontological inquiry, and how the latter’s work, Sein und Zeit, informed the French existentialist movement from the 1930s onward.

Did you really think you were going to get a question about Nietzsche (who, btw, is likely one of the most misread philosophers of all time)?

Edited to add - if the only thing you can quote from Leviathan is “nasty, brutish, and short”, you’re permanently banned from entry. 

Victor Machtelwrote:

Using massive amounts of chalk on gym climbs 5.9 or under. 

Chalk is aid.. 

Ted Ravenwrote:

Without looking it up (this is a test to get into a gym after all), explain the influence Husserl’s phenomenology had on Heidegger’s method of ontological inquiry, and how the latter’s work, Sein und Zeit, informed the French existentialist movement from the 1930s onward.

Did you really think you were going to get a question about Nietzsche (who, btw, is likely one of the most misread philosophers of all time)?

Realizing the limits of my own education (not that a question about Nietzsche would've been better), I'd have been content with superficial knowledge of french existentialist novels (or even just a demonstration of acceptable knowledge of world history). But I think you made the right call on upholding appropriate standards - can't be selective enough. Better to be strict with myself and get the books out. Unfortunately I can already see the gym becoming a huge success as the exclusiveness creates a massive hype.

Edited to add - if the only thing you can quote from Leviathan is “nasty, brutish, and short”, you’re permanently banned from entry.

This is gold. Would also be a good name for the gym.

This!!!

I can't stand it when they put blue and black routes at the same stations in the gym. After about a week of chalk and shoe rubber it can be very difficult to tell which holds are yours, especially when looking down trying to find the right feet to use.  Same thing applies to white and yellow routes.

Matt Robinsonwrote:

... blue and black routes ... white and yellow routes.

I have no idea what this means, I've never climbed in a gym.
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slimwrote:

When you pull your rope, if you keep pulling it down into one big coil, loop after loop after loop, and then complain on the next belay that your rope has always been kinky since it was new - i am going to judge you.

That's how I pull my rope! (but it doesn't get kinky).

Either I am misunderstanding you or I am doing something wrong (probably a bit of both)

1. Hangdogging is a mortal sin. If you grab the dog bone on two separate bolts, I’m definitely rolling my eyes.  Go and train on something closer to your grade please. I don’t want to witness your degloving accident.

2. People who spend more time looking at the beta than trying the climb. Your pretend floor moves don’t fool me.

3. Another one…people who think their Black Diamond uniform makes them a superior climber than someone who looks like a dirt bag.

4. Jabrones that have no chill.

5. People who yell dab should be exiled.

6. Strongdudebros that have no chill.

7. People who obsess about grade without actually looking up the climb to see if it’s doable.

Fighting words?

1. Not using chalk
2. Using original RPs (along with a random collection of brass and steel micronuts that have been bootied over the past decades)

Lmao everything I hate about the climbing community in one thread jkjk lololol

Kristin Giermanwrote:

1. Hangdogging is a mortal sin. If you grab the dog bone on two separate bolts, I’m definitely rolling my eyes.  

Is that what hangdogging means? I guess I never thought about it. 

Moving slowly: Pet peeve. Getting out of the car, hiking slowly to the crag, taking forever to rack up, taking forever to pack up. All of this drives me nuts, we're here to climb! 

Spelling on MP: Maybe this is more of a pet peeve as well, but for the love of God, it's "rappel" not "repel." Why is no one aware of this?

Quality Gear: Now for some pure snobbery. Draws have to be stiff and have a nice clipping action. I use Petzl Spirit Express draws and whenever I climb on someone else's ten-year-old floppy BD solid gates that feel like the gate is going to break off I am very bummed. This also goes for cams, I like totems and modern generation BD cams at a minimum. Wild country, full metolius rack, just not my thing. Also, that 9-year-old link cam on the creek rack inspires 0 confidence.

Immediately labeling a long, quality route as a "choss pile" because there's like 6 loose rocks at one belay station. Wtf were you expecting? It's a large cliff that is, you know, made of rock.