Climbers that are sober.

Sarah Zwrote:

Tradiban comes onto every post and either trolls people, minimizes their experiences, or pretends everyone else is an idiot. I’ve never once seen someone trash their entire life over a cup of coffee or free soloing, I have one hundred percent seen people do that for their next drink or drug. Big difference 

I deleted the offending post regarding Soloists Anonymous, was just trying to bring some levity to the thread. My apologies. A childhood friend drank himself to death a few years ago so I do have some familiarity with the topic.

A soloing addiction has killed a few out there, so it's no joke, and true, coffee probably hasn't killed anyone but one addiction can help shed light upon others.

PS. You can also use the "Ignore" button on the profile page if you don't like a poster's style.

I choose to be positive.  I  am cured. Not even  mildly  interested in a drink.  I  know  that  goes against popular  doctrine  but I  am  cured.  Just as long as  I don't  touch the stuff..  alcohol and tobacco are the  worst.  I  can  tell  a mile away  the  character's who put away a suitcase and 2 packs of cigarettes  a day.. they look like death  walking.   With alcohol moderation is fine if you don't have a problem. If you do have a problem moderation is a joke...  Fox in charge of the chicken coop.. There was a moderation movement  a while back that was billing themselves as an alternative to AA.  The founder ended up killing someone in a DWI crash... 

Tradi is so lame he would troll a breast cancer thread.. is what it is. 

Coffee can make life really really shitty, the folks I've known who ignore hydration and stick to just caffeine/sugar/synthetic sugar diuretic drinks are typically depressed/low energy/grumpy. Its definitely another addiction that can really add up to a sad existence. Addiction is tough, I've also known a few couples over the years to split over activity addiction like climbing too much or running too much(crossfit divorce is the newest). You see it coming a mile away from the outside looking in. 

Hopefully I dont get attacked and called a troll over sharing my feelings in the general climbing forum.

M Mwrote:

Coffee can make life really really shitty, the folks I've known who ignore hydration and stick to just caffeine/sugar/synthetic sugar diuretic drinks are typically depressed/low energy/grumpy. Its definitely another addiction that can really add up to a sad existence. Addiction is tough, I've also known a few couples over the years to split over activity addiction like climbing too much or running too much(crossfit divorce is the newest). You see it coming a mile away from the outside looking in. 

Hopefully I dont get attacked and called a troll over sharing my feelings in the general climbing forum.

Coffee not so much (it's more sophisticated?) but I see the energy drinks enabling people to continue their worse addictions. The friend who drank himself to death was also guzzling a case of Monsters a day just so he could stay awake at work, the Doctors said it was also a main factor in his liver failure. 

"Everything in Moderation" is what they say.

M Mwrote:

Coffee can make life really really shitty, the folks I've known who ignore hydration and stick to just caffeine/sugar/synthetic sugar diuretic drinks are typically depressed/low energy/grumpy. Its definitely another addiction that can really add up to a sad existence. Addiction is tough, I've also known a few couples over the years to split over activity addiction like climbing too much or running too much(crossfit divorce is the newest). You see it coming a mile away from the outside looking in. 

Hopefully I dont get attacked and called a troll over sharing my feelings in the general climbing forum.

I dunno..... 

It's also quite possible that "too much" takes place when in fact, the marriage has already become too little, and has been that way for awhile. The majority of us suck at being spouses, after all!

We're all different. Some people seem perpetually driven to....something.

Are they an addict? 

Or an Olympic hopeful?

Most of us muck around in the middle most of our lives, with occasional triumphs and rare moments of glory. 

Taking joy in my cuppa in the morning?

Totally guilty as charged. 

Getting hands on rock this afternoon, first outing in many many weeks?

Fuck the laundry! It can sit in the dryer another week.

Best, Helen

Tradibanwrote:

I deleted the offending post regarding Soloists Anonymous, was just trying to bring some levity to the thread. My apologies. A childhood friend drank himself to death a few years ago so I do have some familiarity with the topic.

A soloing addiction has killed a few out there, so it's no joke, and true, coffee probably hasn't killed anyone but one addiction can help shed light upon others.

PS. You can also use the "Ignore" button on the profile page if you don't like a poster's style.

Like you blocking me?   (Full disclosure, I was definitely rude to Tradi, over mental health comments of his. I've also never used that "ignore" button, ever. Doesn't fit my definition of respect, but that's just me.)

I agree with you on energy drinks, also sodas, that's a big one, and a huge difficulty for many people.

Best (really truly!), Helen

Hey, what happened to your climbers and kids thread? That was great!

8/15/86  Patience and tolerance are almost within my grasp!

Sober from what?  I have basically no issues with alcohol.  Usually only 2-3 drinks in social occasions (sometimes more but careful never to actually get drunk which I kind of hate anyway).  I was however a massive pothead until about 2 years ago and have had issues with other drugs in the past.  Being sober from that had made a massive difference in my life (and making me realize how much I tried to use it to cover up things like my ADHD and other social issues) asking with growing the Catholic faith I came into before quitting.

Creed Archibaldwrote:

14 years sober. I’ve been on some climbing trips exclusively with people in recovery and it’s always a rad experience. 

How’d you find groups like that? :)

hows everyone doing?

Annie Nielsenwrote:

How’d you find groups like that? :)

Going to meetings in Salt Lake City, you see people walk in the door with chalky pants and approach shoes. Over the years, I've made friends with other sober climbers and we just organized it. It wasn't part of an official group. 

Nick Goldsmithwrote:

hows everyone doing?

Doing well! I actually met a fellow sober climber from this threat IN REAL LIFE. It was cool. 

The mountains are calling! Life is good.

Anyone in NM want to climb together?

Also, my guestroom is always open if you’re passing through Albuquerque. 

Anna Brownwrote:

The mountains are calling! Life is good.

Anyone in NM want to climb together?

Also, my guestroom is always open if you’re passing through Albuquerque. 

I available down in Las Cruces 

I’m not sober but Movement has a sober climbers night at one of their Maryland gyms I believe.

It’s been a little bit more than a year for me. 

Awesome  Mark.  It  gets  easier.  The  first year is tough.  After that 2nd  year it's easy. 

I haven't had a drink since August 2016. It's not a coincidence that I got more into climbing at that time, leading me to starting my own business working remotely, and moving into my van. I didn't get sober because of climbing, but the two are inextricably connected in my life: it would not be possible to have so much climbing in my life without being sober, and climbing is a big part of my life being worthwhile enough that I don't feel the need to escape from it with drinking.

Four years for me. I am incredulous I even considered myself a climber while drinking, at least in the three or four years before I quit.