Access Fund - click-bait

Why are offsets a thing came close. Such a hot button issue. Even more so than dogs

Creed Archibald wrote:

You guys can't fight at Momentum. It's a family establishment. 

Keep it to good old american domestic violence guys

Creed Archibald wrote:

You guys can't fight at Momentum. It's a family establishment. 

I watched some kid take his shirt off in there last week, he got tongue-lashed by the staff... They were apoplectic, you'd have thought he had been caught tugging on his dong in the children's bathroom. Guess they're afraid the sight of a bare chest is going to send dozens of innocent lord-gobblers to heck (and more importantly make them cancel their membership).

Boissal wrote:

I watched some kid take his shirt off in there last week, he got tongue-lashed by the staff... They were apoplectic, you'd have thought he had been caught tugging on his dong in the children's bathroom. Guess they're afraid the sight of a bare chest is going to send dozens of innocent lord-gobblers to heck (and more importantly make them cancel their membership).

I would go to that gym out of principle if they bar shirtless bros.

Creed Archibald wrote:

You guys can't fight at Momentum. It's a family establishment. 

You can’t fight in here. This is the war room!

Stanley Kubrick, 1964, Dr. Strangelove

Scott M. McNamara wrote:

Stanley Kubrick, 1964, Dr. Strangelove

Winner, winner chicken dinner.  nicely done!

jg fox wrote:

I know what access fund has done and hasn't done in the past, they earned my support through word of mouth with their work at Auburn Quarry, however they could always do more.

Have you seen their budget?  I mean, if more than 1% of climbers joined/gave, then yes, but...

Alexander Blum wrote:

Nick will delete anything someone flags. I don't think he really reads the posts, just deletes things that get flagged without question.

I dont think that's the case.
#1, it isn't all Nick,
#2, Not everything flagged is deleted.

Mark E Dixon wrote:

I wonder if we could pull off a thread where every post got deleted?

I tried to get thrown out of every bar at Purdue my final week there.  I was not quite successful.
The problem was when we got to the last place, which was known to be owned by a climber, and the guy was not there.
But his staff wouldn't throw me out.  Oh, the irony of failure in that case.

As of December 2017, no one had authority to delete forum posts but Nick. I found another post from early Feb of this year that implied one more moderator was in training, but it was currently still all Nick. I believe you that not everything that is flagged gets deleted. However, I have flagged some incredibly mild things (bc I thought they were toxic, moreso than flagrantly violating the rules), and they were immediately removed, with no placeholder post indicating moderation. Just like Boissal's post - it was pretty mild. Considering the vitriol that is left standing all over this site, the heavy-handed moderation that occurs when users flag things is disappointing to me. 

FWIW, I am in favor of stronger moderation here - I think a lot of lurkers would come out of the woodwork and create richer conversations here if 2-3 disruptive, bully-ish posters were reined in. Moderation should be consistent and transparent though. A community where flagged posts just disappear without any explanation isn't one I feel great about participating in.

Boissal wrote:

I watched some kid take his shirt off in there last week, he got tongue-lashed by the staff... They were apoplectic, you'd have thought he had been caught tugging on his dong in the children's bathroom. Guess they're afraid the sight of a bare chest is going to send dozens of innocent lord-gobblers to heck (and more importantly make them cancel their membership).

Funny, when Adam Ondra was in there climbing shirtless about a year and a half ago they didn't say anything.   He sure stood out though.

jg fox wrote:

They will just delete the thread then.  They did that with some Old Lady H drama a year ago.

If you're thinking of that "Old Lady H is a troll" thread, sadly, I didn't even get a chance to post in the thing, someone yanked it so fast. I was set to have fun and see if we could all get some entertainment out of it.

Not everything flagged is deleted, and then there are all the deleted with no flag, box, or anything. Just disappeared. Those are the worst, IMO.

The nesting quotes were fun, when we finally pushed that over the edge. No more.

Best, OLH

Jake Jones wrote:

I think if I saw a goddamned goat in the gym, it’d be difficult to ignore.

Yea it would probably piss me off when he onsights all the 5.13s like they were nothing.

Alexander Blum wrote:

As of December 2017, no one had authority to delete forum posts but Nick. I found another post from early Feb of this year that implied one more moderator was in training, but it was currently still all Nick. I believe you that not everything that is flagged gets deleted. However, I have flagged some incredibly mild things (bc I thought they were toxic, moreso than flagrantly violating the rules), and they were immediately removed, with no placeholder post indicating moderation. Just like Boissal's post - it was pretty mild. Considering the vitriol that is left standing all over this site, the heavy-handed moderation that occurs when users flag things is disappointing to me. 

FWIW, I am in favor of stronger moderation here - I think a lot of lurkers would come out of the woodwork and create richer conversations here if 2-3 disruptive, bully-ish posters were reined in. Moderation should be consistent and transparent though. A community where flagged posts just disappear without any explanation isn't one I feel great about participating in.

Yea! How do we go about creating a forum called climbing safe space?  I’m so scared to post elsewhere.      :-( 

What a constructive reply! Glad you're around to contribute useful content. 

Would you go to a weekly party that had three unmitigated assholes who just went around terrorizing everyone? Or would you skip that party for a less shitty one?

There is a reason supertopo has the (narrow) user base that it does. 

It's not about safe spaces. People's views and beliefs can be challenged without being a dick about it. 

Dan Cooksey wrote:

Yea! How do we go about creating a forum called climbing safe space?  I’m so scared to post elsewhere.      :-( 

Forums really shouldnt be taken too seriously, it is about 99% a waste of time and certainly nothing worth getting ones panties in a twist. 

and back to the subject, that Access fund link was sad, they should stay away from climbing rag behavior/humor.

T Roper wrote:

Forums really shouldnt be taken too seriously, it is about 99% a waste of time and certainly nothing worth getting ones panties in a twist. 

and back to the subject, that Access fund link was sad, they should stay away from climbing rag behavior/humor.

 Exactly! I’ve met a lot people in person that I first met here. I don’t think one person has ever taken what I write seriously and bought any of that nonsense to the real world.

Glenn Ritter wrote:

Funny, when Adam Ondra was in there climbing shirtless about a year and a half ago they didn't say anything.   He sure stood out though.

Probably too afraid of his screeching fits of rage when he couldn't send the pink route... I'd let that monster walk around shirtless too if it meant not having to approach him and rupture an eardrum.

Bill Kirby wrote:

I don’t think one person has ever taken what I write seriously and bought any of that nonsense to the real world.

The former seems a shame.
But maybe that's just my impression.  I generally hope to be taken for earnest in my dealings.