Cheap calories on the fly?

Marc801 C wrote:

Do you actually eat plain butter on climbing days? Or any other day for that matter?

I have. And the dog loves'em also.  However, we both prefer olive oil.  :-)

Marc801 C wrote:

Do you actually eat plain butter on climbing days? Or any other day for that matter?

Added to anything, yes. Care of Chongo Chuck.

Eugenel Espiritu wrote:

Added to anything, yes. Care of Chongo Chuck.

"Added" is quite a bit different than just popping a chunk of butter into your mouth!

butter in the coffee isnt bad, good for long days

Marc801 C wrote:

"Added" is quite a bit different than just popping a chunk of butter into your mouth!

FML really?

Eugenel Espiritu wrote:

FML really?

Not at all. I was curious about the people who simply listed a high fat item - specifically olive oil and butter - and wondered if they were eating it straight or putting it on/in something. Disturbingly, two others claimed they did just that.

yuck.

Full disclosure: I would never consume straight olive oil (or butter), especially in the summer. I will take straight butter or olive oil in the winter to add to everything I eat at camp.

Nick Sweeney wrote:

Full disclosure: I would never consume straight olive oil (or butter), especially in the summer. I will take straight butter or olive oil in the winter to add to everything I eat at camp.

So you are sane! At least somewhat.

Butter and instant coffee in the morning oatmeal.

Power-Sammies Recipe: 

wheat bread 

Layer of Butter on each slice 

Layer of nutella on each slide 

Layer of cheddar cheese in middle 

optional: add layer of honey or peanut butter or add another slide of bread in the middle, make sure to cover all sides of middle piece with nutella

Home-made goo recipe: 

super concentrated coffee 

nutella 

chocolate syrup 

Mix ingredients together and pour into squeeze bottle. 

It seems lots of people are focusing on big energy boosts with little holding power by ingesting high levels of sugar and carbs (more sugar). Anyone have go tos for longer lasting energy boosts, especially for people with wicked fast metabolisms who are always hungry? I find things higher in fats and protein helps. nuts and nut butters work ok for me me, cheeses as well but they can be a bit hard to digest. 

simplyput . wrote:

It seems lots of people are focusing on big energy boosts with little holding power by ingesting high levels of sugar and carbs (more sugar). Anyone have go tos for longer lasting energy boosts, especially for people with wicked fast metabolisms who are always hungry? I find things higher in fats and protein helps. nuts and nut butters work ok for me me, cheeses as well but they can be a bit hard to digest. 

more butter

Melissa Thaw wrote:

Power-Sammies Recipe: 

wheat bread 

Layer of Butter on each slice 

Layer of nutella on each slide 

Layer of cheddar cheese in middle 

optional: add layer of honey or peanut butter or add another slide of bread in the middle, make sure to cover all sides of middle piece with nutella

Home-made goo recipe: 

super concentrated coffee 

nutella 

chocolate syrup 

Mix ingredients together and pour into squeeze bottle. 

I'd throw butter in that goo myself, a fat slice right in the espresso maker works

T Roper wrote:

more butter

Yeah I'm all about it. Raw, unadulterated.

Do you all really eat all this and are able to climb hard? Lol. Whole foods anyone? (not the store)

Christian DuBois wrote:

Do you all really eat all this and are able to climb hard? Lol. Whole foods anyone? (not the store)

Are you that guy carrying the 70l pack full of kale and bison bars?  The average human needs about 100 calories per mile.  Carbs and protein are 4 cal/g, fat is 9 cal/g.  Carbs and fats can be bought at over 1000 cal/$.  It's just math.

sean o wrote:

Are you that guy carrying the 70l pack full of kale and bison bars?  The average human needs about 100 calories per mile.  Carbs and protein are 4 cal/g, fat is 9 cal/g.  Carbs and fats can be bought at over 1000 cal/$.  It's just math.

You guys talking about Paleo?

sean o wrote:

Are you that guy carrying the 70l pack full of kale and bison bars?  The average human needs about 100 calories per mile.  Carbs and protein are 4 cal/g, fat is 9 cal/g.  Carbs and fats can be bought at over 1000 cal/$.  It's just math.

No, and don't call me a jackass, that's not nice. All that I'm trying to say is that a PBJ and some slices of fruit aren't expensive and obviously a healthier choice than poptarts and Nutella. 

Christian DuBois wrote:

No, and don't call me a jackass, that's not nice. All that I'm trying to say is that a PBJ and some slices of fruit aren't expensive and obviously a healthier choice than poptarts and Nutella. 

I don't  mean to insult you, Christian, but you don't seem to understand how human metabolism works.  The human body converts food into energy in various ways, but you basically get 300 cal/hr from body fat, 300 cal/hr from digestion, 2500 cal from stored glycogen, and that's it.  You can get a bit more if you're careful, but it quickly gets complicated.

A PBJ is actually a pretty good energy source: 200 calories in mixed carbs from the bread, 100 in simple carbs from the jelly, and 100 in random stuff from the peanut butter.  It's an energy bar at less than half the cost.

Christian DuBois wrote:

All that I'm trying to say is that a PBJ and some slices of fruit aren't expensive and obviously a healthier choice than poptarts and Nutella. 

That (the bolded phrase) doesn't matter. There is no such thing as junk food, only junk diets. And from a pure food composition standpoint, the two choices you mention really aren't that far apart. Recall that the first 5 ingredients in most fruits are all sugars.