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Barr, The 0 / 8 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 8
Bat Cave 0 / 25 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 25
Gotham City 1 / 1 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 2
New Beginnings Wall 0 / 7 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 7
South Tower 0 / 2 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 2
Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall) 2 / 13 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 15
Trojan Wall (Right of Bat Cave) 0 / 7 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 7
Tufa Wall 0 / 4 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 4
Villain Wall 1 / 6 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 7

Description

This is currently the main developed area above Caballo Lake. There are several areas here, Gotham City, The Bat Cave, Grey Wall? and Stuff Left of the Cave ETC.

Getting There

Driving to the Bat Cave area requires a high clearance vehicle to get within reasonable hiking distance. From the interstate exit, the first 3.5 miles is on pavement and good dirt roads. The final 2 miles is very rocky but passable with "Subaru/Rav4" SUV clearance. The final 1/2 mile is the worst and there is a good parking/camping option at this "T" intersection.

From I-25 take Exit 59 (Arrey Derry/ Caballo Percha State Parks) exit.

If coming from the north, turn right (southwest) at the exit onto highway 187 and drive for 2.7 mi.
Take a left onto W. Wagoneer Rd. and drive for 1.1 mi.
Take a left onto Sugar Sand/Tumbleweed Rd. for 0.7 mi.
Veer right onto dirt for 0.2 mi.
Take a left at "T", drive under highway in single lane tunnel for 2.6 miles to fork at the dam.
From the dam, continue for about 3.5 miles to the rough "4x4" road(sometimes a rock carin here.) Turn right onto this rocky track and go about .7 miles to a rutted hill--this section requires "Subaru" clearance but isn't too bad.
Bear left on the fork at .9 miles, continue to the final fork at 1.5 miles and go right. This is a good "low clearance" camp option. Continue past a few ruts to the final hill (another parking option) and go up this to the final "T" at 1.9 miles. This is the best parking spot instead of the end of the road since several cars can park here. Walk or drive east up to the high camp. The road ends just beyond the high camp and is the access to Gotham City. The main trail to all the other crags begins from the north end of the "High Camp". Hiking to the high camp and using this less steep trail is more sustainable than the steep trail which starts at the end of the other road beyond that final parking "T".

There are two good parking/camping areas where the hiking trail starts.
For the first (lower) one take the left and continue to the end.
For the second (higher) one continue .25 mi to the end. There are two flat spots and several areas for a rough campsite.

The trail to Tufa Wall heads up right a few hundred feet from the start of the high camp main trail. The main trail forks right onto the steep trail a few hundred feet before the 3rd class rock band. The 3rd class band is dog accessible- small and old dogs may need some help. Above the rock band, follow the steep trail up the drainage and talus to the South Face of Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall). Go right here for South Tower and The Barr. Go left to West Face of Super Hero and Bat Cave, Villian Wall and Trojan Wall.

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Classic Climbing Routes at Bat Cave Area

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5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c
Harley Quinn Devotion
Sport
5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c
Two Face
Sport
5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c
Crystal Mess
Sport
5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a
I'll Be Your Poison Ivy
Sport
5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a
Lucius
Sport
5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b
Tufa Consequences
Sport
5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b
Mega Man
Sport
5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b
Dynamic Duo
Sport
5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b
Bane
Sport
5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c
Super Hero
Sport 2 pitches
5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a
White Washed
Sport
5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a
The Odyssey
Sport 2 pitches
5.12 7b+ 27 VIII+ 26 E6 6b
Old Man Direct
Sport
5.12+ 7c 28 IX 27 E6 6b
New Beginning
Sport
5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c
Bella Donna
Sport
Route Name Location Star Rating Difficulty Date
Harley Quinn Devotion Villain Wall 5.8- 5b 16 VI- 14 VS 4c Sport
Two Face Villain Wall 5.8 5b 16 VI- 15 HVS 4c Sport
Crystal Mess Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall) 5.9- 5c 17 VI 16 HVS 4c Sport
I'll Be Your Poison Ivy Villain Wall 5.9 5c 17 VI 17 HVS 5a Sport
Lucius New Beginnings Wall 5.10a 6a 18 VI+ 18 E1 5a Sport
Tufa Consequences Tufa Wall 5.10 6b 20 VII- 19 E2 5b Sport
Mega Man Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall) 5.10c 6b 20 VII 20 E2 5b Sport
Dynamic Duo Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall) 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b Sport
Bane New Beginnings Wall 5.10d 6b+ 21 VII+ 21 E3 5b Sport
Super Hero Super Hero Wall (Grey Wall) 5.11 6c+ 23 VIII- 23 E4 5c Sport 2 pitches
White Washed New Beginnings Wall 5.11d 7a 24 VIII 25 E5 6a Sport
The Odyssey Trojan Wall (Right of Bat Cave) 5.12a 7a+ 25 VIII+ 25 E5 6a Sport 2 pitches
Old Man Direct Bat Cave 5.12 7b+ 27 VIII+ 26 E6 6b Sport
New Beginning New Beginnings Wall 5.12+ 7c 28 IX 27 E6 6b Sport
Bella Donna Bat Cave 5.13b 8a 29 IX+ 30 E7 6c Sport
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Shirtless Mike
Denver, CO
Shirtless Mike   Denver, CO  
Yes, I get marginal service at the parking area, but get great service up in the cave itself. The service is good enough I've surfed facebook while waiting for the shade to come. May 28, 2015
Taylor J
new mexico, new england
Taylor J   new mexico, new england
Does anyone know by chance if you get cell service here? May 20, 2015
djkyote  
One weekend in February, 2011, we were exploring the canyon to the south east of where you park and encountered two miners bringing a load of dynamite to their claim. We were not aware that we were on their claim and were told to leave. They said that whole canyon is full of active claims and shouldn't be trespassed on. It did not take a lot of convincing because they each had assault rifles with scopes and a sidearm. We were told the bat cave is currently an inactive claim so it is fine to be on, but other exploring should be researched first.

The previous comments regarding carrying a firearm refer to my initial post that one may want to consider carrying in this area. That would be my reaction, but it is debatable whether this would be the best course of action for anyone or everyone. In any case, I was in no way trying to deter people from area, but to let people know who the other user group is and how they view the area. Jan 15, 2013
C Miller   CA  
Comments from a spirited discussion regarding the development of this area have been moved to this forum thread - mountainproject.com/v/bat-c… Jan 14, 2013
I finally got a chance to go out there a few times in the last month or so. Hats off to those developing this area!!! It is certainly an amazing setting with an unbelievable amount of rock and beautiful views. The cave itself is mind blowing and the potential for development on surrounding walls is astounding. Once again Hats Off!!!

As a side note, we have not had any encounters with miners (or anyone else for that matter) but we're still a little cautious about the locale. It is very apparent that there has, at one point, been fair amount of mining activity in this area. Mar 15, 2010
I wanted to call vista verde gotham city but it got turned into vista verde, which is the name of the hiking trail/overlook below the crag. Great theme for NM. Lots of bats in the cracks and pockets. Siiick looking area. Feb 1, 2010
lance hadfield
tijeras
lance hadfield   tijeras
I have gone down several times with no gun and it seems fine I think you should be very respectful of the mining claims and locals but I think it seems fine. Dec 25, 2009
So is this land legal? I only ask because I don't carry a firearm and was hoping to go check this out this weekend, but if its that sketchy I think I'll pass until its a bit more traveled. Oct 21, 2009
LeeAB Brinckerhoff   ABQ, NM  
At this time it is hard to guess the true approach time as everyone that is walking in, every time is carrying a drill a bag of bolts and extra batteries. That said I think it is taking a little over 1/2 an hour from the end of the road and in the future when we are not hauling loads it will be a little under. This is for the Bat Cave itself, the Grey Wall will be a bit longer. I have not done the hike to Gotham City but Bryan said the approach was pretty short, it looks like it may be in the 15-20 minute range. If you can't make it to the end of the road you will need to add up to a mile of steep hiking on the 4x4 section.

With all the driving on dirt roads this is pretty out of the way to check out on your way by. It would be better to bring a drill and just commit to a day up there and help contribute to the cause. Aug 26, 2009
jbak  
I been looking at that cave every time I drive by... for years... what's the approach time ? Aug 26, 2009
LeeAB Brinckerhoff   ABQ, NM  
Please note that this area is very new. The trails are not well established, take your time getting on the correct trail to limit erosion, it will also save you a bunch of time getting to the crag.

LOOSE ROCK The bolts maybe in but a lot of the route may or may not be cleaned yet due to the amount of work involved in bolting on lead. The goal of the people out bolting to this point has been to get to the top of the cliff so that other routes can go in top down, so many of the route have not had a good cleaning and have not been climbed on.

Also please respect the opportunity of those bolting the routes to climb them. There is plenty of rock that has not been touched, if you need to get an FA just do a little walking or go up one of the routes to access the top and put in another line. Aug 26, 2009

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