Hardest single move possible ?
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It seems like after a certain grade, climbs are solely graded on how many hard moves or boulder problems they have contained in them. That being said. What is the hardest single move humanly possible? Is there or will there ever be a single move that is 5.15 or harder? |
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All points off dyno to a quarter-pad, pinky-width mono on an overhanging wall? |
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Bryan Kozak wrote: All points off dyno to a quarter-pad, pinky-width mono on an overhanging wall? It has to be earlier in a trad route so you have a rack full of gear throwing off your balance and weighting you down. |
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V17/9a bouldering is already getting close to 5.15 (granted not single moves but Burden of Dreams isn't very long). Seems like a matter of time. |
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Bryan Kozak wrote: All points off dyno to a quarter-pad, pinky-width mono on an overhanging wall? But are you inverted? |
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5.15 is a collective difficulty so saying there will never be anything harder than 5.15 doesn't really make sense. Hardest moves are almost always graded by boulder grade. For example, a climb might start with a V6/7 into 5.12, followed by a v5/6 into more 5.12. 5.12 doesn't tell you the individual difficulty but rather the overall difficulty. |
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The stem moves on Plumbers Crack are the hardest moves possible. |
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Big Dick Johnson wrote: Action directe is freaking nuts but it's not an all points off dyno (granted it's off of a shallow mono) and it's to a pretty deep 2 finger pocket. |
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Asking out that good looking person that climbs three full grades harder than you... Duh. |
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CrimpDaddy-WesP wrote: If no one here has seen the full film of the project, it’s worth it: Burden of Dreams It’s like 5 moves, and each and every move took one of the world’s best boulderers a season of effort to unlock. It’s both the most impressive and most absurd achievement |
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Brian Abram wrote: I have a great deal of respect for Nalle Hukkataival but not $9 worth. |
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An interesting perspective from Daniel Woods in 2012: The hardest movement I’ve done on rock is a V12, maybe V13 move. My hardest boulder ascents involve linking four or five low-percentage V11 moves in a row. There’s nothing wrong with that. |
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Getting out of the thin crack at the end of Toe Jam |
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The single hardest move will continue to get harder. Ondra has said he's not the most genetically gifted climber, he's really motivated and trains hard. It's like setting the 100 yard dash record. As time goes on it often takes longer and longer for someone new to break the record, but eventually it goes. We just need the next Usain Bolt of climbing. Someone will come along and climb a number of Ondra's climbs and then send something harder. But it may take years for that grade to be confirmed (until we get someone else that capable). |
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Will K wrote: Getting out of the thin crack at the end of Toe Jam lolz! |
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It could always be some gymnastic move like Iron Cross on crimps idk |
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Augie Wagner wrote: An interesting perspective from Daniel Woods in 2012: Its been 8 years. I'm curious if harder moves have been done. I thought I remembered The Process having a move that was supposedly V14, but maybe I'm remembering it wrong. |
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I know the Jade crux is pretty much one move. I also know there is a dyno project in clear creek on the wave wall that is a very hard single move project |
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5.9 is the top of one scale, B3 for another, how about MEVHSPDH19F? |
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The foot lock upside down that Ondra did at the beginning of "Silence". |
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Hardest move???? |