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Backcountry.com not playing nice

phylp phylp · · Upland · Joined May 2015 · Points: 1,137

I just had a chance to browse through this thread.  Thanks to the OP and the others for interesting information and commentary.  Sure trademarks have to be defended, but there is a line of deliberate trademark infringement vs common sense use of a widely used word.  Corporate lawyers often do not seem to understand that consumers care about this line.  There are plenty of places to buy gear.  I have bought from them in the past (in fact having a package arriving today), but will use other retailers in the future.  

Tim Stich · · Colorado Springs, Colorado · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 1,516
Eric Kaufman wrote: 
Backcountry.com is like the Ebeneezer Scrouge of wilderness retailers. 

Joecob Marley is cool with them, though.

Vaughn · · Colorado · Joined Mar 2011 · Points: 55
M Sprague wrote:

There is always that guy calling other people stupid...


I'll just respond to the last sentence. I am sure it is getting out to other communities, especially since they are so mixed, alla skiers, mntbikers, or it soon will be. It may have started in the ski industry anyway.

Yep, there is already a long thread on the TGR Forums

And a shorter thread on the MTBR forum

This issue has certainly picked up some momentum and I would be surprised if Backcountry.com doesn't respond in some way.
curt86iroc · · Lakewood, CO · Joined Dec 2014 · Points: 274

add 14ers.com to the list:

https://www.14ers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=57377

Full disclosure, i started it :)

joe trabucco · · Boulder, co · Joined Feb 2017 · Points: 0

Just let me know when their 25% off sale is.  

Ashort · · Las Vegas, NV · Joined Apr 2014 · Points: 56
Señor Arroz wrote:

Facebook is a made-to-purpose word like Xerox or Nerf. Sue away! Amazon: Show me where they're doing the same, ie. suing orgs or companies that are not in their space. Ie. https://www.delfinamazoncruises.com/. Apple: They're really aggressive about their REAL IP but I don't see them suing The Apple Pan, Applebys, AppleOne...

Well, they did sue 8 Latin American countries over the use of the .amazon domain name. 

Tim Stich · · Colorado Springs, Colorado · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 1,516
Joe Trabucco wrote: Just let me know when their 25% off sale is.  

Do you feel the weight of the chain you yourself bear? You have added to is since several posts ago. It is a ponderous chain...

curt86iroc · · Lakewood, CO · Joined Dec 2014 · Points: 274
Joe Trabucco wrote: Just let me know when their 25% off sale is.  

25% off? c'mon man....that's like normal prices. 

Matthew Jaggers · · Red River Gorge · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 695
Señor Arroz wrote:

Facebook is a made-to-purpose word like Xerox or Nerf. Sue away! Amazon: Show me where they're doing the same, ie. suing orgs or companies that are not in their space. Ie. https://www.delfinamazoncruises.com/. Apple: They're really aggressive about their REAL IP but I don't see them suing The Apple Pan, Applebys, AppleOne...

Because IP lawsuits are the only reason to boycott a company.

djh860 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2014 · Points: 110

I’m going to start a new gear company and call it black diamond .  No one will sue me right?   And if someone does they are A holes?  Is that how it works?

Andrew Rice · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined Jan 2016 · Points: 11
Ashort wrote:

Well, they did sue 8 Latin American countries over the use of the .amazon domain name. 

Pointer to any coverage of that? My understanding is that Amazon asked ICANN to let them have the .amazon top level domain. Amazonian countries, understandably, objected and filed a protest. ICANN sided with Amazon. You can take issue with that but it's not Amazon suing anyone. 

Choss Connoisseur · · SLC · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 15
Briggs Lazalde wrote: I say we start a go fund me to raise a large lump some of cash to help smaller companies defend against backcountry.com...even if it doesnt effect much(depending on how much is raised) it will be extremely bad publicity for backcountry.com when word gets out that money is being raised to support anyone and everyone against this giant.

GoFundMe - Legal Defense to fight Backcountry

Choss Connoisseur · · SLC · Joined Sep 2017 · Points: 15
Briggs Lazalde wrote:

Fuck yes. Should start a new thread with this link as the OP. I'm moving and shouldn't spend money but I'll live with 20 less dollars in my pocket. Sorry backcountry...you done fucked up

Feel free to start another thread. 

Full disclosure, I didn’t start the GoFundMe & don't know the person who did - I fully support it though & I’m sure they’d appreciate any shares. Learned of it through a Facebook group that’s gaining some solid traction

Boycott Backcountry Facebook Group 
Joshua McDaniel · · Fayetteville, NC · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 170
Vaughn wrote:

Yep, there is already a long thread on the TGR Forums

And a shorter thread on the MTBR forum

This issue has certainly picked up some momentum and I would be surprised if Backcountry.com doesn't respond in some way.

There's regional ski forum, SkiSoutheast, that has posted on this too.

djh860 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2014 · Points: 110
Dave K wrote:

0/10

Wake up people literally every company defends their trademarks .  Google March madness trademark. 

Ian Lauer · · Yakima, WA · Joined Jan 2014 · Points: 15
djh860 wrote:

Wake up people literally every company defends their trademarks .  

Pretty sure the 0/10 was because he didn't even try. We are discussing the merits of using a generic term which is related to a whole industry of products and services, not a direct blatant and wholesale rip-off of someones brand.

Bharath T · · Boulder CO · Joined Aug 2018 · Points: 70

i sent em a message telling them to fuck off. i used to be a loyal customer since our club had a discount with them but im happy to pay 15% more and support someone who isn't a corporate bully

joe trabucco · · Boulder, co · Joined Feb 2017 · Points: 0
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Russ B · · Salt Lake City, UT · Joined Jun 2011 · Points: 42
Joe Trabucco wrote:

Damn look at how edgy Mr. I cry to strangers on the internet when old men make underhanded comments at me is. 

curt86iroc · · Lakewood, CO · Joined Dec 2014 · Points: 274

anyone get the sense Joe works for backcountry??

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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