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Mei pronounced as May · · Bay Area, but not in SF · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 177

Hey MP dev team, will there be a day for us to ever see that "View All" button? It's okay. You can tell the truth. 

Terry E · · San Francisco, CA · Joined Aug 2011 · Points: 43
Zander Göpfert wrote:

Thanks for the bump, Mei. I will bring this up and see if we can get it added. I'll follow up either way. 

I’d love to see this added, too!

Mei pronounced as May · · Bay Area, but not in SF · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 177
Mike Dahlquist wrote:

I'm with Mei.  It's almost 2023----time for a "View All" feature!

Well, it's almost 2025. 5+ years have passed since the initial request. 

Here is an idea for you MP developer(s). You can have the same "More" button as on tick list to facilitate pagination of content loading, but do provide a way for readers to see the entire thread on the same page. Is it that hard of a problem to crack? 

Zander Göpfert · · Boulder County, CO · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 214

Hi Mei, me again :) First, users like yourself are why MP is great so thank you for sticking with this. In an effort to be more transparent, I don't think it's as much an issue of whether this is hard (I'm not a developer so don't quote me on that) but if it has measurable value. Personally, I think it's a great idea and there's obviously precedent for it elsewhere and even in MP itself, but in order to prioritize it above other work, we need to show that it's something that some meaningful portion of MP users care about. Happy to discuss further and appreciate any feedback. 

Mei pronounced as May · · Bay Area, but not in SF · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 177

I appreciate the transparency, Zander! 

To be honest, I have a hard time understanding why not everyone of my fellow MP users wants this feature, but I admit I often times simply do not understand my fellow human beings, period. (I will not get into politics here.) 

Guess all I can ask is for other MP users to speak up, or lurkers to "like" my first post, so we can show the MP developers that we do care. Would 50 likes be good enough? 

Cherokee Nunes · · Unknown Hometown · Joined May 2015 · Points: 0

Zander, you know how sometimes a developer will go in to fix something in a code section, and remark in passing - "I also fixed X since I was in there, and it was bugging me." ie bonus code?

Put it on the developers' bonus code list. Maybe one of them will just do it.

Charles Winstead · · Mill Valley · Joined Jul 2021 · Points: 184

I would also like this feature

Zander Göpfert · · Boulder County, CO · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 214
Mei pronounced as May wrote:

I appreciate the transparency, Zander! 

To be honest, I have a hard time understanding why not everyone of my fellow MP users wants this feature, but I admit I often times simply do not understand my fellow human beings, period. (I will not get into politics here.) 

Guess all I can ask is for other MP users to speak up, or lurkers to "like" my first post, so we can show the MP developers that we do care. Would 50 likes be good enough? 

Added my thumbs-up!

Cherokee Nunes wrote:

Zander, you know how sometimes a developer will go in to fix something in a code section, and remark in passing - "I also fixed X since I was in there, and it was bugging me." ie bonus code?

Put it on the developers' bonus code list. Maybe one of them will just do it.

Done :) And I've flagged it with a couple folks so here's to hoping..  

Mark E Dixon · · Possunt, nec posse videntur · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 984

As long as it's optional I think this would be great feature.

But I don't want to have to download 50 pages of photos to look at the latest post in the memes thread!

Mei pronounced as May · · Bay Area, but not in SF · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 177

Hi MP admins, can we re-evaluate this feature request?

Again, the ask is -- has always been -- about adding an optional way of displaying thread content. It's not taking away anything from those patient people who love the 20-comment pagination. 

P.S. For the developers, if there is concern with the performance of large query result, it can be implemented similar to the long tick list -- I don't mind a few mindless clicks on "view more" button to bring content in as long as I end up having the full content displayed on the same page. I often search for some keyword to zoom in to comments that I'm interested in, so having the entire thread on one page is very helpful.

P.P.S. Thanks to all for joining the petition (via your thumbup)!

Christian Hesch · · Arroyo Grande, CA · Joined Aug 2017 · Points: 55

Only 38 thumbs on the original post… let’s see if we can get another dozen so this feature is implemented.

(for those who don’t want to read the thread, please go back to Mei’s OP and click the thumbs up)

Zander Göpfert · · Boulder County, CO · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 214

Hi Mei, we love the idea and included it in a recent survey to weigh net-new features, improvements, etc. against each other and start prioritizing things. At least in relation to the other features and improvements, it ranked somewhere in the middle (#21 out of 46). We're doing our best to take a data-driven approach to check our own biases and get after the things that the most users want or find value in and that are the least "performant" i.e. lowest user satisfaction.

That said, I'll be a squeaky wheel and maybe we get lucky :)

If anyone is interested in future surveys and feedback opportunities, please fill out this form: onx.research.net/r/7ZWNYY3

Mike Larson · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined May 2006 · Points: 70
Zander Göpfert wrote:

Hi Mei, we love the idea and included it in a recent survey to weigh net-new features, improvements, etc. against each other and start prioritizing things. At least in relation to the other features and improvements, it ranked somewhere in the middle (#21 out of 46). 

I'm curious, what were the top 3?

Mei pronounced as May · · Bay Area, but not in SF · Joined Jul 2015 · Points: 177

Thanks, Zander! I'm curious too! What were the top 20! (Pffft, #21 out of 46!) But top 3 will do. Care to reveal? 

Zander Göpfert · · Boulder County, CO · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 214

The areas that the top features/improvements map to are: offline functionality, improved route differentiation at the crag, and better data organization and discovery. To be fair, we have a pretty long list of (mostly) great requests and for this survey, though we tried to pair it down some, we erred on the side of including more than not to set a baseline and general direction so it covered a big spectrum. I'm not a user researcher but imagine that at some point we'd want to survey folks about the forum, specifically, and then adding View All or a search function, for example, would likely rank much higher.

Mike Larson · · Los Angeles, CA · Joined May 2006 · Points: 70

Thanks Zander. Those three are obviously huge catch-all categories. I don't envy you guys. You could break down just one of those into dozens of different particulars, improve them, and still have people identify the same category as the needing the most improvement. 

Sort of like saying the healthcare system needs "better access to care." Well yes, obviously it does, but to improve that requires a thousand changes along the way and people will still complain about the same thing even if things improve.

Incorporate a View All option and forum users like me and Mei will instantly be satisfied on that front. I say time to harvest some low-hanging fruit.

Zander Göpfert · · Boulder County, CO · Joined Jun 2016 · Points: 214

Very much appreciate that, Mike. Those categories are indeed very big and we've done subsequent surveying to narrow down what pieces within them are most important, but I'm trying (maybe not very well) to be a little sensitive to divulging too much info given the cost and effort that went into those surveys and gaining that insight. It's not revolutionary stuff really but having the quantitative validation is an important step and we'll definitely keep sharing when we have updates. That said, we'd also like to improve the process for sharing updates and have a feedback loop that all users can engage with. Right now we're focused on making mobile and web bug fixes, improving the admin review tools, and making headway with some of the new stuff we've learned. Lots more to come :)

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