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Levi Leach · · Mansfield Ohio · Joined Jan 2025 · Points: 0

Can you list your ape index and the grade you climb, Yosemite scale, preferably? You can list either your lead or your highest grade. I'm doing a stats class project.

Jeb Wennrich · · Bethlehem, NH · Joined Jul 2021 · Points: 292

+3, 12+

Kinda fun, if you find any statistical significance based on just the 2 variables let me know!

Louka Hendricks · · Longmont, CO · Joined Apr 2025 · Points: 70

-1", 5.12b

Adam Fleming · · SLC · Joined Jun 2015 · Points: 531

+4, 12a

Jason Mills · · Northwest "Where climbers g… · Joined Oct 2016 · Points: 8,310

5'11, -2 AI. Hardest RP, 12.b; hardest OS, 12.a

Cory B · · Fresno, CA · Joined Feb 2015 · Points: 2,593

"Grade you climb" needs to be better defined. I know some people who can redpoint 5.12, but call themselves 5.10 climbers because they can't onsight every 5.12. I also know people who call themselves 5.12 climbers who have only redpointed a handful of 5.12s in their whole careers.

Daniel Shively · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2024 · Points: 0
Cory Bwrote:

"Grade you climb" needs to be better defined. I know some people who can redpoint 5.12, but call themselves 5.10 climbers because they can't onsight every 5.12. I also know people who call themselves 5.12 climbers who have only redpointed a handful of 5.12s in their whole careers.

This sounds like an interesting topic to dive in to, especially if bouldering is included. From my observations, process oriented individuals seem to fit into your first group, while outcome/goal oriented individuals often fall into the latter. 

0”, 5.10,v6 

edit: max sport .12c, max sport flash .11d, max gear .12b, max gear flash .11+, max boulder v9, max boulder flash v5, 15 grade 6 walls, max ice wi5, first ascent gear .12, first ascent onsight gear .10+, onsight free solo 5.8. 

I claim 5.10, v6 as what I climb because I’ve been solid at these ratings for almost 30 years. 

Hung Ron · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Sep 2020 · Points: 36

-4, 5.14b 

Jeremiah White · · Colorado Springs · Joined Feb 2021 · Points: 231

-1, 5.11C

Shane F · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2014 · Points: 1

+2, 5.11c

Logan Peterson · · Santa Fe, NM · Joined Jan 2015 · Points: 231

+1.5, 12b/c

Beyond the questions posed above, this presents a fun statistical conundrum: Is YDS grade a linear continuous variable (10b-10a = 11b-11a), an exponential function (akin to pH, which innocent statisticians frequently treat as linear), or an ordinal variable (5.11 is harder than 5.10, but we can't/won't quantity that difference)? I don't think there's a single good answer other than "YDS is subjective".

Matt Robinson · · Saint Petersburg, FL · Joined Apr 2013 · Points: 15

+1, hardest redpoint 12d 

jms · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 0

-3, 5.10b

Hangdog Hank · · Leavenworth, WA · Joined Mar 2017 · Points: 2,184

+1.5, 12b/c, V8, you could also mine Kaya for this data as peoples profile lists their ape and their highest grade.

Eric Craig · · Santa Cruz · Joined Sep 2024 · Points: 5

+2. Hardest trad onsite flash, 5.12b. Hardest repoint, 5.12a. Hardest led/fell/hung, 5.11d. All of those from 1981. In Yosemite Valley. 

Hardest trad follow, 5.11c.

Ass backwards yes, but true. I thought this might screw with your project. 🙂

Tone Loc · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2023 · Points: 0

If it’s for a school project, you may want to note that climbing grades themselves can be assigned quite subjectively, the YDS scale has changed over time, and they usually differ gym vs. outside. So there are some limitations on the conclusions you can draw from this data point alone. (But that doesn’t mean it isn’t worth doing!). A third data point might help, but make it a more complex calc.

Tanner H · · Boone, NC · Joined Nov 2019 · Points: 40
Eric Craigwrote:

+2. Hardest onsite flash, 5.12b. Hardest repoint, 5.12a. Hardest led/fell/hung, 5.11d. All of those from 1981.

Ass backwards yes, but true. I thought this might screw with your project. 🙂

Does an onsight not count as a Redpoint?

For your info: I’m 5.8+1, I’ve climbed one 5.13a

I’m curious, what is the project? 

MikePond · · Reno, NV · Joined Dec 2011 · Points: 110

73”+1 and 5.12d but 12a-b on sight when I’m in shape 

JC D · · Salt Lake · Joined Aug 2019 · Points: 50

+3, 12a

Yukon Cornelius · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2019 · Points: 0

0", hardest redpoint 12a

Caleb · · Ward, CO · Joined Jun 2013 · Points: 270

+2”, Hardest onsight 12c, Hardest redpoint 12c, Hardest Trad redpoint 12a,  Hardest Boulder v8.

Because your data set is voluntary, it will be heavily skewed by braggadocio.

I think cataloguing height would also be relevant info (6’1”).  As well as weight (178lbs).  And age (43).

I feel like AI may be able to do your project for you.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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