Are Dissenting Views Inherently Trolls

apogeewrote:

Daniel Shivelywrote:

Succinct and to the point.

We could use more of that around here.

There's a process where you write long comments, like it really matters, and you invest everything into everything you write. Then your posts get shorter and shorter, as you realise that just as you never read what others write, few read what you write either, plus sincerity just makes you vulnerable and weak. Eventually, you just stop posting anything. You save it all up in your head, which one day explodes. The same applies to voting. 

Andy Kirkpatrickwrote:

There's a process where you write long comments, like it really matters, and you invest everything into everything you write. Then your posts get shorter and shorter, as you realise that just as you never read what others write, few read what you write either, plus sincerity just makes you vulnerable and weak. Eventually, you just stop posting anything. You save it all up in your head, which one day explodes. The same applies to voting. 

I read what other people post in threads that interest me.

I don’t care if people perceive me as vulnerable and weak.

”If voting made a difference, they wouldn’t let us do it”

J W wrote:

I would rather read a 20-paragraph post that couples careful thinking with finely-crafted prose than 20 1-liners as inane as they are brief.

Often as not, TLDR means too lazy, didn’t read.

Agree, 100%. Skilled writing can condense the former, and concentrate a lot of meaning in the latter. Operative word being skilled.

Soft Catches and The Hard Truthwrote:

When someone holds an unpopular opinion, do we automatically assume they’re trolling? How do you distinguish between genuine disagreement and trolling? Can you share an example from Mountain Project where someone strongly disagreed with you, you had a detailed discussion, and you felt they were not trolling? 

If you ever lock your own thread because you don’t like the responses you were trolling. 

This seems appropriate at this point:

The 10 Commandments of Logic

1. Thou shalt not attack the person’s character, but the argument. (Ad hominem)

2. Thou shalt not misrepresent or exaggerate a person’s argument in order to make them easier to attack. (Straw man fallacy)

3. Thou shalt not use small numbers to represent the whole. (Hasty generalization)

4. Thou shalt not argue thy position by assuming one of its premises is true.(Begging the question)

5. Thou shalt not claim that because something occurred before, it must be the cause. (Post Hoc/False cause)

6. Thou shalt not reduce the argument down to two possibilities. (False dichotomy)

7. Thou shalt not argue that because of our ignorance, claim must be true or false. (Ad ignorantum)

8. Thou shalt not lay the burden of proof onto him that is questioning the claim.(Burden of proof reversal)

9. Thou shalt not assume “this” follows “that” when it has no logical connection.(Non sequitur)

10. Thou shalt not claim that because a premise is popular, therefore it must be true. (Bandwagon fallacy)

Marc801 Cwrote:

This seems appropriate at this point:

The 10 Commandments of Logic

1. Thou shalt not attack the person’s character, but the argument. (Ad hominem)

2. Thou shalt not misrepresent or exaggerate a person’s argument in order to make them easier to attack. (Straw man fallacy)

3. Thou shalt not use small numbers to represent the whole. (Hasty generalization)

4. Thou shalt not argue thy position by assuming one of its premises is true.(Begging the question)

5. Thou shalt not claim that because something occurred before, it must be the cause. (Post Hoc/False cause)

6. Thou shalt not reduce the argument down to two possibilities. (False dichotomy)

7. Thou shalt not argue that because of our ignorance, claim must be true or false. (Ad ignorantum)

8. Thou shalt not lay the burden of proof onto him that is questioning the claim.(Burden of proof reversal)

9. Thou shalt not assume “this” follows “that” when it has no logical connection.(Non sequitur)

10. Thou shalt not claim that because a premise is popular, therefore it must be true. (Bandwagon fallacy)

Devils advocate you are Marc. 

If you can ignore trolling, your question doesn't matter.