Things that give you "the ick"

Jay Crewwrote:

sling

"Hey can hand me a sling? No not a runner, a sling. Not the 240, one of the slings"

"You mean the alpine dra-"

"HOW DARE YOU!? YOU WHO HAVE NOT GAZED UPON THE MAGNIFICENCE OF THE MATTERHORN, OR LAID YOUR BREAST AGAINST THE SPIRES OF PATAGONIA, OR STEPPED A FOOT ON THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE HIMALAYAS. UTTER NOT THAT NAME LEST I BE FORCED TO SEVER THIS SACRED KERNMANTLE BOND OVER YOUR BELIGERENT HERESY. NOW HAND ME THAT-WHICH-MAY-NOT-BE-NAMED-BY-THE-UNWORTHY SO I MAY LEAD THIS 5.8"

This community sucks

Emil Alejandriawrote:

"Hey can hand me a sling? No not a runner, a sling. Not the 240, one of the slings"

"You mean the alpine dra-"

"HOW DARE YOU!? YOU WHO HAVE NOT GAZED UPON THE MAGNIFICENCE OF THE MATTERHORN, OR LAID YOUR BREAST AGAINST THE SPIRES OF PATAGONIA, OR STEPPED A FOOT ON THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE HIMALAYAS. UTTER NOT THAT NAME LEST I BE FORCED TO SEVER THIS SACRED KERNMANTLE BOND OVER YOUR BELIGERENT HERESY. NOW HAND ME THAT-WHICH-MAY-NOT-BE-NAMED-BY-THE-UNWORTHY SO I MAY LEAD THIS 5.8"

This community sucks

I asked for beta before attempting the grand. Specifically, I asked how many alp*** ***ws to bring. The fella I was asking read me a similar riot act.   Not wanting to look stupid, I stopped asking questions and interpreted it as “bring 0”.

Fast Forward to the next day, (not so) high on the lower exum, I am completely encumbered by rope drag. I could not move up nor down.  I was forced to built a belay in the middle of the black face. If only I had just asked about “sling” instead, maybe I would’ve graduated to the elite level of alpinist who can use alp*** ***ws. 

Alpine slings

Problem solved

I remember when I had to call it the Grand Tetoff when I hadn't summited it yet, or else.  Now I can proudly say Grand Teton.

I have climbed the Grand, but I can’t even boulder V7. Does that mean I can use alpine draws, but I have to take bouldering falls onto an “outside bed?”

Hey, pass me that sling folded in thirds between two biners

Sep Mwrote:

I have climbed the Grand, but I can’t even boulder V7. Does that mean I can use alpine draws, but I have to take bouldering falls onto an “outside bed?”

“Mattress” is ok.  

This thread no longer icks me.

Eric Mosswrote:

Hey, pass me that sling folded in thirds between two biners

BITD you’d carry 4or so slings/runners over your shoulder with two biners on them. 

I want to know who named them "alpine  draws". Please, someone tell me.

Although I could make a guess.

Then there are the "alpine climbs" that finish on a summit below treeline.

Neither really gives me the ick. 

I still want to know who named them.

Eric Craigwrote:

I want to know who named them "alpine (quick) draws". Please, someone tell me.

Although I could make a guess.

Whoa whoa whoa….Eric please wait 3 more pages before “bust-n-a-cap” in this thread, hahaha.  

Alpine draws and Quickdraws are not equivalent,  not even grammatically equivalent 

You saying I fxxked up already?

I'll fix it.

People that upload a route without a photo. 

People who rack gate in and people who don’t tie in with a bowline on a Yosemite finish

Silas Yostwrote:

People who rack gate in and people who don’t tie in with a bowline on a Yosemite finish

The Yosemite bowline gives me the ick.  Scott's locked gives me the yum.

Daisy-chained top-ropes give me the ick - literally no reason to do it, a single large slip knot is sufficient.

Worse is when people don't know the daisy chain so they tie a bunch of overhands in the rope.

To bridge the divide, Black Diamond Equipment is now calling them "Alpine Quickdraws."

Garry Reisswrote:

To bridge the divide, Black Diamond Equipment is now calling them "Alpine Quickdraws."

I am guessing that is the original name. But who thunk it up?

+1 for the Yosemite Bowline.

Garry Reisswrote:

To bridge the divide, Black Diamond Equipment is now calling them "Alpine Quickdraws."

to complement their "sport slings"?

‘Runner’ or ‘sling’ has always seemed perfectly fine to me.

I call it a high alpine x-rated ice and mixed draw device. That ok?