Things that give you "the ick"

People that upload a route without a photo. 

People who rack gate in and people who don’t tie in with a bowline on a Yosemite finish

Silas Yost wrote:

People who rack gate in and people who don’t tie in with a bowline on a Yosemite finish

The Yosemite bowline gives me the ick.  Scott's locked gives me the yum.

Daisy-chained top-ropes give me the ick - literally no reason to do it, a single large slip knot is sufficient.

Worse is when people don't know the daisy chain so they tie a bunch of overhands in the rope.

To bridge the divide, Black Diamond Equipment is now calling them "Alpine Quickdraws."

Garry Reiss wrote:

To bridge the divide, Black Diamond Equipment is now calling them "Alpine Quickdraws."

I am guessing that is the original name. But who thunk it up?

+1 for the Yosemite Bowline.

Garry Reiss wrote:

To bridge the divide, Black Diamond Equipment is now calling them "Alpine Quickdraws."

to complement their "sport slings"?

‘Runner’ or ‘sling’ has always seemed perfectly fine to me.

I call it a high alpine x-rated ice and mixed draw device. That ok?

So no one here knows where the name "alpine draw" , or "alpine quickdraw", came from???

I do believe I know where the name "cordelette" came from. Maybe make a trade???

Trumpers.

Non-specific and/or non-climbing related political discussions on MP. This is a place for our hobby; it’s supposed to be welcoming to all and centered on a thing we all love.

Trumpers still give me the ick. as do folks who sit on the fence and allow our country to be hijacked by ignorant racist fascist jerks. 

The real ick is the over privileged white liberal college students.

The ~2.7 million voters that swayed the election made a specific choice, and definitely did not sit on the fence. If they had had another, more intriguing alternative, they might well have gone that way.

Who coined the term "alpine draw"?

Does anybody know? Anybody have a guess?

Eric Craig wrote:

Who coined the term "alpine draw"?

Does anybody know? Anybody have a guess?

beginners and gym climbers started saying it, then a lot of them became "real" climbers and kept saying it

Jay Crew wrote:

beginners and gym climbers started saying it, then a lot of them became "real" climbers and kept saying it

Eh, I am not buying that. Going out on a limb, but if I had to guess,  I would say Marc Chauvin. Or Alan Jolley, or a collaboration of the two. But it's just a hunch. I don't know. 

I have never seen Marc's book. Maybe the answer, or a clue, is in there. 

Anybody know? And willing to say?

Nick Goldsmith wrote:

Trumpers still give me the ick. as do folks who sit on the fence and allow our country to be hijacked by ignorant racist fascist jerks. 

Don’t get caught in the black and white bs. When uoi start making claims off the deep end and acting crazy then you look like you’re being controlled by political elites. But I agree I do not like that useless pile of orange trash. 

Lars Edmunds wrote:

Don’t get caught in the black and white bs. 

you can't be neutral on a moving train.

I am the farthest thing from politically elite. I am a gun toting back woods redneck. I ain't no doctor, ain't no veterinarian neither but I do know a dead horses asshole when I smell it.